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  82. # [03:43] <jack_> is anybody here ?
  83. # [03:46] <gsnedders> there are likely people around
  84. # [03:46] <gsnedders> you're probably best off asking and lurking around till someone answers
  85. # [03:46] <jack_> I need to ask something on HTML DOCTYPE.
  86. # [03:49] <gsnedders> just ask it.
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  88. # [03:50] <jack_> okay! so here is my question...
  89. # [03:51] <jack_> why we use exclamation mark (!) in DOCTYPE declaration ?
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  91. # [03:51] <gsnedders> Oh. Now that is historical!
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  93. # [03:51] <gsnedders> Short version: because SGML did.
  94. # [03:52] <jack_> and long version ?
  95. # [03:53] <gsnedders> Well, SGML will have to disambiguate it from a start tag.
  96. # [03:53] <gsnedders> *will have ahd
  97. # [03:53] <gsnedders> **will have had
  98. # [03:54] <gsnedders> From memory (my copy of the SGML spec is hundreds of miles away!), SGML doesn't disallow any element names.
  99. # [03:54] <jack_> and one more is, why only angle brackets <> is used, and not square bracket or curly bracket ?
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  102. # [03:55] <gsnedders> As opposed to using square brackets or curly brackets for DOCTYPE and CDATA sections and the like?
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  108. # [04:11] <jack_> ( ) this can also be used why only <> brackets in HTML?
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  111. # [04:15] <gsnedders> You'd have to ask timbl that. Probably because he was going for something: a) simple; b) resembled SGML (in its default settings).
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  114. # [04:22] <jack_> can anyone provide a best link for elaboration on SGML, think this as i am going to or want to learn SGML.
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  121. # [04:34] <jack__> can anyone provide a best link for elaboration on SGML, think this as i am going to or want to learn SGML.
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  123. # [04:35] <Domenic> google or wikipedia are likely the way to go for that
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  125. # [04:37] <jack__> Its just providing me the information. I want to learn the SGML code or GML code. I want to know why only angle brackets are used and why not square or curly bracket.
  126. # [04:47] <Domenic> Again, I think Google or Wikipedia will be your best guide there.
  127. # [04:48] <Domenic> None of us is really an expert on decades-old technological ancestors of our current technology, I don't think
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  182. # [08:27] <annevk> Hixie and zcorpan prolly are somewhat experts in SGML stuff
  183. # [08:28] <annevk> Hixie once famously convinced browsers to implement SGML-style comments
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  486. # [23:37] <captain_> is whatwg under control of google?
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  488. # [23:37] <boogyman> no
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  490. # [23:39] <smaug____> captain_: https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What_is_the_WHATWG.3F
  491. # [23:43] <captain_> wikipedia said there is only one decision maker
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