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  1. # Session Start: Thu Jul 23 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  22. # [00:46] <annevk> https://w3c.github.io/mediacapture-main/getusermedia.html
  23. # [00:46] <annevk> https://w3c.github.io/media-source/
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  25. # [00:51] <Sebmaster> annevk: !
  26. # [00:51] <Sebmaster> I had a thing
  27. # [00:51] <Sebmaster> Lemme check what it was
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  29. # [00:54] <Sebmaster> annevk: https://github.com/jsdom/whatwg-url/compare/ee5da1da68e016a4bcf6addd1d29f4a98191323c...590d1fa4fd9e4270c3fd8f8cdb08d7f94a65eb31 basically
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  32. # [00:57] <annevk> file a bug against web-platform-tests?
  33. # [00:57] <annevk> if you mean you have new test
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  35. # [01:00] <Sebmaster> annevk: yeah that too, but I noticed it because the spec doesn't handle 0s well
  36. # [01:01] <Domenic> annevk: wanderview https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebGL_API/Tutorial/Using_textures_in_WebGL
  37. # [01:01] <annevk> Sebmaster: hmm, file a bug on the spec
  38. # [01:01] <annevk> Sebmaster: ideally with a pointer to that diff
  39. # [01:01] <Sebmaster> Will do... Tomorrow
  40. # [01:01] <annevk> Sebmaster: don't really have time today either
  41. # [01:01] <annevk> Sebmaster: ta!
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  43. # [01:04] <annevk> wanderview: Domenic: https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/49
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  46. # [01:19] <annevk> jsbell: hey
  47. # [01:20] <annevk> jsbell: are you in the SF office by any chance and have a spare minute?
  48. # [01:20] <jsbell> annevk: yep...
  49. # [01:20] <annevk> jsbell: we're wondering about structured cloning of streams
  50. # [01:20] <annevk> jsbell: we can sort of figure it out, but the somewhat harder case is indexed db
  51. # [01:20] <jsbell> annevk: where are you?
  52. # [01:21] <annevk> jsbell: we're at the Moz office
  53. # [01:21] <annevk> jsbell: actually, Domenic thinks he wants to think it through first
  54. # [01:21] <annevk> jsbell: so let's leave it for today
  55. # [01:21] <jsbell> annevk: okie dokie
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  124. # [06:16] <matttiko2> Hi there I have a question regarding serviceWorker
  125. # [06:17] <matttiko2> So I try navigator.serviceWorker.register('%2f') in Chrome and it gives this error message: "Uncaught (in promise) DOMException: Failed to register a ServiceWorker: The provided scope or scriptURL includes a disallowed escape character."
  126. # [06:17] <matttiko2> Is it part of the spec?
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  129. # [06:34] <MikeSmith> matttiko2: not as far as I can see
  130. # [06:35] <MikeSmith> the single argument there to that register call is just a URL, right?
  131. # [06:35] <MikeSmith> and can be relative
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  133. # [06:36] * MikeSmith looks at the latest SW editor's draft
  134. # [06:37] <matttiko2> MikeSmith: Yeah I tried absolute and relative URLs and both gave the same exception as long as it contains %2f or %5c
  135. # [06:39] <MikeSmith> matttiko2: yeah that seems like a bug in Chrome then
  136. # [06:40] <matttiko2> MikeSmith: Ah thanks!
  137. # [06:40] <MikeSmith> but you probably want to ask JakeA about that that once he's around
  138. # [06:40] <matttiko2> sure
  139. # [06:41] <MikeSmith> matttiko2: incidentally (unrelated to the handling of %2f), that URL arg is supposed to be an absolute URL, right?
  140. # [06:41] <MikeSmith> that's what https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker/#register-algorithm says at least
  141. # [06:41] <MikeSmith> which makes sense I suppose
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  143. # [06:42] <JakeA> MikeSmith: matttiko2: we agreed at a f2f yesterday that %2f should reject if it's in the path name
  144. # [06:42] <MikeSmith> JakeA: ah ok
  145. # [06:42] <MikeSmith> JakeA: but is there are requirement in the spec that states the constraint for taht?
  146. # [06:43] <JakeA> This comes from the concessions we made over sites that treat "directories" as security boundaries
  147. # [06:43] <MikeSmith> ah
  148. # [06:43] <JakeA> And that it turns out that %2f is treated as / in a lot of servers
  149. # [06:43] <JakeA> It will become part of the spec
  150. # [06:44] <MikeSmith> k
  151. # [06:44] <JakeA> Chrome made the change for security reasons, and unfortunately it makes sense
  152. # [06:44] <matttiko2> Make sense
  153. # [06:45] <JakeA> matttiko2: MikeSmith: see https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/630
  154. # [06:47] <JakeA> I guess it makes sense, but I'd rather we'd be able to say to these sites "you've made incorrect assumptions about how the platform works, so sorry", but it makes sense to bend over backwards a bit for these sites
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  156. # [06:49] <matttiko2> Thanks, good to know the changes
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  160. # [07:06] <MikeSmith> heh, "Thanks broken servers"
  161. # [07:06] <MikeSmith> we could say that about a lot of stuff
  162. # [07:07] <MikeSmith> sadly
  163. # [07:11] <hgl> will html template eventually have a declarative api? I'm very fond of react's way of creating dom elements, wish could do something similar natively. the polymer project already offers a declarative sugar like https://github.com/Polymer/TemplateBinding, is there any interest in going that direction?
  164. # [07:20] <MikeSmith> botie, inform annevk, given https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2015Jul/0155.html ("We'd like to encourage them to move to SSL for the player page... however many are unlikely to do if it means moving the video CDN to HTTPS"), I'm wondering what you think of the proposal from Ryan Sleevi at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2015Feb/0371.html (which I don't think you
  165. # [07:20] <botie> will do
  166. # [07:20] <MikeSmith> ever weighed in on yet). Also wondering what hsivonen thinks of it.
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  179. # [08:14] <ondras> Domenic: ?
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  288. # [15:32] <annevk> MikeSmith: see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2015Apr/thread.html#msg93 for some ramblings on the subject
  289. # [15:32] <annevk> MikeSmith: later months might contain more
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  354. # [18:37] <annevk> What do you call a collection of request contexts if you want to avoid "group" and "type"?
  355. # [18:38] <annevk> request.context == "hyperlink" && request.contextSet == "navigation"?
  356. # [18:45] <miketaylr> set sounds good
  357. # [18:46] <jsbell> This is for a higher level grouping of context values?
  358. # [18:46] <jsbell> "category" comes to mind
  359. # [18:48] <jsbell> (or "flavour" - with the U of course - if you want to curse future generations of tech writers and non-English speakers)
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  413. # [19:41] <annevk> jsbell: yeah
  414. # [19:41] <annevk> If contextSet sounds good I guess I'll go with that since it's short
  415. # [19:42] <annevk> And cannot be confused with context frame type or fetch group
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  437. # [20:35] <wanderview> annevk: was your comment here about the navigator.connect() thing (which may not be as relevent now)? https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/669#issuecomment-120247820
  438. # [20:35] <annevk> yeah
  439. # [20:36] <wanderview> ok, I will reply in the issue we don't have any problems with the current spec
  440. # [20:38] <Domenic> I kind of would expect contextSet to be a set, not a string
  441. # [20:38] <Domenic> but i have no better ideas
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  444. # [20:42] <wanderview> annevk: I guess we couldn't use "environment" either?
  445. # [20:43] <annevk> Domenic: yeah...
  446. # [20:43] <miketaylr> what's a collection of strings... a spindle?
  447. # [20:43] <miketaylr> loom
  448. # [20:43] <wanderview> context / subcontext
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  458. # [21:03] <annevk> wanderview: that works if we didn't have context already
  459. # [21:03] <wanderview> annevk: I posted in the issue... I think I would have preferred boolean getters like if(req.navigation)
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  462. # [21:05] <annevk> req.navigation and then maybe later req.worker and/or req.resource?
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  464. # [21:05] <annevk> maybe that's okay
  465. # [21:05] <annevk> I guess it was really navigation that was the annoying one, right?
  466. # [21:06] <annevk> wanderview: would isNavigation be too bad?
  467. # [21:06] <wanderview> annevk: works for me... I don't know what the web platform naming police would say
  468. # [21:07] <annevk> wanderview: so yeah, context being an object... it seems overkill though somewhat neater
  469. # [21:08] <wanderview> annevk: I don't think object is really practical without changes to webidl to let us define unique objects that can be ==='d
  470. # [21:09] <wanderview> .isNavigation works for me
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  472. # [21:11] <jsbell> wanderview: can you review https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/5620 (not urgent)
  473. # [21:13] <wanderview> jsbell: sure... may not happen till tomorrow
  474. # [21:13] <jsbell> wanderview: np, thx!
  475. # [21:13] <wanderview> apparently my body disagrees with red eye flights
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  499. # [22:20] <annevk> I hope they have some decent new movies on the flight tonight
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  501. # [22:20] <annevk> That's mostly been my first world problem with flying lately... the movie selection
  502. # [22:21] <annevk> I guess I have varying amounts of jet lag too... Pretty bad after Whistler
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  506. # [22:23] <wanderview> I try to download movies to my ipad... not rely on the plane entertainment
  507. # [22:24] <wanderview> for long international flights, though, you kind of have to
  508. # [22:24] <wanderview> it seemed a lot of people were watching the new Avengers on my flight
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  511. # [22:29] <Ms2ger> Back in my day, they had just the one movie, and you could barely see it
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  519. # [22:44] <wanderview> jsbell: is there a reason not to compare bodies in that critic PR?
  520. # [22:45] <wanderview> other than the helpers would have to do a lot of cloning I guess
  521. # [22:45] <jsbell> wanderview: right, wouldn't be synchronous, and I didn't want to restructure the tests
  522. # [22:45] <wanderview> oh... that too
  523. # [22:45] <wanderview> ok
  524. # [22:46] <wanderview> jsbell: we don't implement [iterable] on Headers yet, but I think it should just be a noop in those helper functions
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  529. # [22:47] <wanderview> anyway, I'll finish looking at it tomorrow... I don't trust myself in my current condition
  530. # [22:47] <jsbell> wanderview: the previous version didn't compare headers entries, so that's one bit of extra fanciness I added.
  531. # [22:47] <jsbell> wanderview: thanks!
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  540. # [23:05] <annevk> Ms2ger: you mean back when you were born?
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  564. # [23:41] <annevk> mkwst: you around? https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/73
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