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  208. # [12:56] <annevk> JakeA: we need some new terms for service workers
  209. # [12:56] <annevk> JakeA: when request's destination is "unknown", the service worker needs to be skipped
  210. # [12:57] <annevk> JakeA: when it's "subresource", the service worker is selected based on the client
  211. # [12:57] <annevk> JakeA: when request's destination is any other value, the service worker is selected based on the request's url
  212. # [12:57] <JakeA> Makes sense
  213. # [12:58] <annevk> JakeA: we used to call this last one "client request", but does that still make sense if it includes NEL and CSP reports?
  214. # [12:58] <annevk> (and downloads)
  215. # [13:00] <JakeA> annevk: agreed, describing it in terms of destination makes more sense. Although I'm still not totally sure if CSP reports are "of the page" or not
  216. # [13:00] <annevk> If they're not they could become a subresource, but it doesn't really resolve the naming issue
  217. # [13:00] <annevk> Assuming we want to have names
  218. # [13:01] <JakeA> Since CSP can block "client" requests, I guess they're not of the page
  219. # [13:01] <JakeA> (of the client, I mean)
  220. # [13:01] <JakeA> So the system works
  221. # [13:02] <JakeA> "" is an acceptable destination
  222. # [13:02] <annevk> Sure, but my question is what we should do with "client request" as a term
  223. # [13:02] <annevk> And "navigation request"
  224. # [13:02] <annevk> Etc.
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  256. # [15:04] <annevk> JakeA: are you explaining microtask vs compound microtask, too?
  257. # [15:04] <JakeA> annevk: I wasn't, but probably because I don't understand it myself
  258. # [15:04] <JakeA> I could
  259. # [15:06] <annevk> JakeA: I just know I need the latter for mutation observers... I forgot why it has that setup
  260. # [15:06] <annevk> JakeA: aklein knows and explained it to me once
  261. # [15:06] <JakeA> annevk: just saw the other messages, we could get rid of "client request" and "navigation request" and instead describe them in terms of destination
  262. # [15:06] <annevk> JakeA: I have some kind of solution for that already
  263. # [15:07] <annevk> JakeA: it's "non-subresource request"
  264. # [15:07] <annevk> JakeA: not super elegant, but it'll do
  265. # [15:07] <JakeA> Seems fine to me
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  277. # [16:11] <annevk> JakeA: is https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/79 going to result in a change to the Cache API?
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  319. # [18:23] <JakeA> annevk: yeah, I think the same-origin restriction seems reasonable
  320. # [18:23] <JakeA> (sorry that reply took so long)
  321. # [18:24] <annevk> JakeA: hmm, that's not the one I hoped for
  322. # [18:25] <annevk> JakeA: I was hoping that if we the request has redirect mode not to follow and the cache only has a redirected response, it returns failure
  323. # [18:25] <JakeA> annevk: oh, wait, you're right
  324. # [18:25] <JakeA> yeah, it won't need a change
  325. # [18:25] <JakeA> sorry
  326. # [18:25] <JakeA> I should think more
  327. # [18:25] <annevk> You mean Fetch doesn't need a change, but the Cache API does?
  328. # [18:26] <JakeA> No, cache doesn't need to change, "same-origin" navigations are enough
  329. # [18:27] <annevk> Hmm. I thought we wanted to allow CORS responses for those in theory?
  330. # [18:27] <annevk> I do anyway
  331. # [18:27] <JakeA> I think this is a good reason not to
  332. # [18:27] <annevk> Seems rather arbitrary
  333. # [18:28] <annevk> I think this is a good reason to not make the Cache API return something different from the fetch() API
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  335. # [18:31] <JakeA> annevk: not sure what you mean
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  337. # [18:33] <JakeA> This bug can be fixed by a same-origin restriction in cache, or enforcing same-origin for navigations in fetch. In both cases, you could take a CORS response, read the data & make a synthetic response to circumvent the limitation
  338. # [18:33] <annevk> What about my solution?
  339. # [18:34] <annevk> What I mean is that the Cache API not respecting RedirectMode seems like a bit of a bug
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  368. # [19:42] <wanderview> annevk: JakeA: whatever happened to the idea of requiring SW scripts to be 'use strict'?
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  387. # [20:21] <jsbell> wanderview: https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/294 captures most of it, I guess.
  388. # [20:22] <wanderview> ok, thanks
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  395. # [20:44] <annevk> wanderview: I think that failed
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  397. # [20:45] <annevk> wanderview: we need something like module:true at some point
  398. # [20:49] <wanderview> annevk: ok... I was more just verifying we should not be treating script warnings as hard failures in the SW script... currently gecko does that
  399. # [20:50] <annevk> wanderview: what is a script warning?
  400. # [20:50] <annevk> wanderview: sounds bogus
  401. # [20:50] <wanderview> annevk: function f() { return 1; return 2; }
  402. # [20:51] <wanderview> legal js, but we generate a warning
  403. # [20:51] <wanderview> I believe
  404. # [20:51] <annevk> that doesn't even throw with "use strict" afaict
  405. # [20:52] <annevk> wanderview: so yeah, we shouldn't do that
  406. # [20:52] <wanderview> right
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  408. # [20:59] <Domenic> yeah that's a devtools thing basically
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  433. # [21:32] <wanderview> Domenic: whats really awesome is that because of this bug we can't load asmjs stuff in service worker scripts... because it "logs" success messages as "warnings"
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  435. # [21:33] <Domenic> oh wow that is fun
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  440. # [21:39] <annevk> wanderview: so much wrong :-/
  441. # [21:40] <wanderview> annevk: Its a one-line fix thankfully
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  453. # [22:14] <JosephSilber> TabAtkins, when nesting two `flex-direction: column` containers in a `flex-direction: row` container, the innermost flex items seem to overflow the innermost container.
  454. # [22:14] <JosephSilber> http://codepen.io/anon/pen/oXOYNz?editors=110
  455. # [22:14] <JosephSilber> Is that right? I have an app that I haven't touched in months. It used to work as expected, but doesn't now.
  456. # [22:15] <TabAtkins> JosephSilber: That's the min-height:auto triggering.
  457. # [22:15] <TabAtkins> Set min-height:0 to make it not expand too large
  458. # [22:15] <JosephSilber> TabAtkins, In that example, I would expect the list to scroll, since it should stop at the boundry of its container.
  459. # [22:15] <JosephSilber> min-height makes it spill over?
  460. # [22:16] <TabAtkins> Yeah, it forces it to a minimum height equal to its natural height.
  461. # [22:16] <JosephSilber> Which element needs the min-height:0
  462. # [22:16] <JosephSilber> ?
  463. # [22:16] <TabAtkins> The column
  464. # [22:17] <JosephSilber> Why does it only happen in triple-nested flex containers like that?
  465. # [22:18] <JosephSilber> TabAtkins, it doesn't happen here: http://codepen.io/anon/pen/mJgOeB?editors=110
  466. # [22:18] <JosephSilber> Only when I wrap it in an additional flex container with a perpendicular axis.
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  470. # [22:30] <TabAtkins> It does happen, but overflow is complicated and hard to debug.
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  472. # [22:31] <TabAtkins> In that case you're specifying the height on the containers, so the min-width adjusts to that.
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  474. # [22:31] <TabAtkins> But when they're perpendicular, if often doesn't have a definite-height container any more.
  475. # [22:31] <TabAtkins> So the min-height is full-powered.
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  477. # [22:37] <JosephSilber> hmmmmmm.
  478. # [22:37] <JosephSilber> Like you said, complicated.
  479. # [22:37] <JosephSilber> :)
  480. # [22:39] <TabAtkins> It turns out to be complicated no matter what. :( Before we did min-height:auto, flexboxes did visible overflow constantly and it was really hard to debug which one was the problem.
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