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  15. # [00:26] <JonathanNeal> Okay, the increases complexity part was the only thing that came to mind for me, due to the manner in which it takes a default (what I was calling a fallback).
  16. # [00:27] <JonathanNeal> I guess I’m glad custom media and custom properties don’t take fallbacks like that. They rely and fallback based on inheritence only, I suspect?
  17. # [00:27] <JonathanNeal> s/custom properties/custom selectors
  18. # [00:28] <MikeSmith> annevk: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32771832/securing-cors-is-the-a-security-scheme-with-cookies
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  25. # [00:37] <TabAtkins> JonathanNeal: custom media/etc don't have any other options to deal with, and are immediately clear from context.
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  40. # [01:14] <roc> This paper is very interesting: https://fbcdn-dragon-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t39.2365-6/10935986_985284008163608_743666691_n/Moving_Fast_with_Software_Verification.pdf
  41. # [01:14] <roc> one of the interesting parts is the beginning where they contrast native mobile app development with Web development. In particular, that on the Web you control which version of your code users are running, and with native apps you don't. Which makes a big difference.
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  49. # [01:40] <roc> cool use of SVG: http://unifiedpatents.com/1st-half-2015-patent-dispute-report/
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  52. # [01:51] <gavinc> SVGs would be cooler if they were right
  53. # [01:51] <gavinc> Delaware had 946 patents cases not 249
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  139. # [04:06] <JonathanNeal> Hey, give or take 697.
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  261. # [10:11] <annevk> Domenic: one more look? https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/187
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  265. # [10:18] <annevk> MikeSmith: attempted an answer of sorts
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  267. # [10:25] <annevk> roc: Yeah, very interesting indeed. Also how mobile app development you need to be much more correct before release, due to bugs leading to crashes.
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  269. # [10:26] <Domenic> annevk: I can't actually find the definition for #concept-WorkerGlobalScope-url ?
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  272. # [10:26] <annevk> Domenic: directly below WorkerGlobalScope</dfn>
  273. # [10:27] <annevk> Domenic: "A WorkerGlobalScope object has an associated url (null or a URL). It is initially null."
  274. # [10:27] <annevk> Domenic: but the data-x stuff gets lowercased
  275. # [10:27] <annevk> Domenic: so #concept-workerglobalscope-url
  276. # [10:28] <Domenic> Ah OK
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  278. # [10:29] <annevk> Domenic: so yeah, I'm pretty sure we need <script type=module> to require CORS, due to new SOP risks, but folks are sensitive
  279. # [10:30] <Domenic> annevk: it seems better to me to follow CORS on all new things.
  280. # [10:30] <Domenic> <script type="module"> should mostly be used for inline anyway, IMO.
  281. # [10:30] <Domenic> But I guess the question recurs for absolute-URL `import`s
  282. # [10:30] <annevk> Domenic: yeah, I think we cannot not require CORS
  283. # [10:30] * Domenic is in European timezone for a few days
  284. # [10:31] <annevk> Domenic: not sure what to default to though
  285. # [10:31] <annevk> Domenic: I guess "anonymous"
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  290. # [10:42] <Domenic> Hmm I wonder if http://www.w3.org/TR/cors/ should go in https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Fork_tracking ?
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  292. # [10:42] <annevk> Domenic: s/the/this/ would no longer be consistent with the definition for self
  293. # [10:43] <annevk> Domenic: we really need an IDL-defined "this"
  294. # [10:43] <annevk> Domenic: yeah I guess it should
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  296. # [10:43] <annevk> Domenic: that's been causing a ton of confusion
  297. # [10:43] <annevk> Domenic: I will add it
  298. # [10:43] <Domenic> annevk: acknowledged on s/the/this
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  305. # [11:15] <nox> annevk: Talking about WebIDL, https://github.com/heycam/webidl/pull/58
  306. # [11:19] <MikeSmith> annevk: thanks (for the SO answer)
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  308. # [11:21] <annevk> nox: you want heycam|away
  309. # [11:29] <annevk> Okay shit, I accidentally force pushed html-build
  310. # [11:29] <annevk> Can someone undo?
  311. # [11:29] <annevk> And then enable protection for master?
  312. # [11:29] <annevk> MikeSmith: Domenic: ^^
  313. # [11:32] <annevk> MikeSmith: Domenic: unless there were commits after zcorpan's commit, nothing may have been damaged
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  323. # [11:43] <MikeSmith> annevk: will take a look, and no worries, I'm sure we can unwind it if needed
  324. # [11:43] <MikeSmith> but yeah, will set up master-branch protection there right now
  325. # [11:44] <MikeSmith> btw is anything I wrote at http://stackoverflow.com/a/32769242/441757 not accurate?
  326. # [11:44] <Domenic> annevk: yeah can fix, although my Linux computer is back at the hotel so will be a few hours.
  327. # [11:45] <MikeSmith> (about non-localhost web apps being able to read from local file:// URLs)
  328. # [11:45] <annevk> MikeSmith: Domenic: I'll just not touch anything there for now
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  330. # [11:46] <MikeSmith> Domenic: I'll just wait for you to reset it, unless you want me to deal with it in the mean tiem
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  332. # [11:46] <Domenic> MikeSmith: if you have the latest commits locally then go ahead.
  333. # [11:47] <MikeSmith> k looking now
  334. # [11:47] <nox> annevk: Yes, but as you say he is away. :)
  335. # [11:50] <MikeSmith> Domenic: so yeah the last merge to master was for https://github.com/whatwg/html-build/pull/35 and I have that of course, so I reckon you got the same on your other machine
  336. # [11:50] <MikeSmith> so I'll go ahead and force-push from my clone
  337. # [11:50] <Domenic> Shouldn't need force, right?
  338. # [11:50] <MikeSmith> ah yeah
  339. # [11:51] <Domenic> But yeah I am 95% sure that was HEAD.
  340. # [11:51] <MikeSmith> yeah same here
  341. # [11:52] <MikeSmith> and if we're wrong and there was some other change we're forgetting about that happened in the mean time, you can push it later
  342. # [11:52] <MikeSmith> I definitely didn't push to master myself since then
  343. # [11:53] <MikeSmith> ok, just pushed (and yeah, didn't need to force-push it), and it was just that one change since the time of zcorpan's commit
  344. # [11:54] <annevk> MikeSmith: enable protection?
  345. # [11:54] <MikeSmith> yup, just did now
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  347. # [11:55] <MikeSmith> so all is now right with the world again
  348. # [11:55] <annevk> sorry about that
  349. # [11:55] <annevk> glad things are still a bit distributed, even though GitHub is not
  350. # [11:55] <MikeSmith> yeah
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  384. # [13:21] <smaug____> annevk: could "9.5.4 Broadcasting to many ports" be possibly removed from the spec
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  389. # [13:39] <MikeSmith> fyi I just now added a deprecation warning to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Using_the_application_cache
  390. # [13:40] <MikeSmith> I guess it should be added to all other MDN pages for appcache
  391. # [13:43] <MikeSmith> what's the release date for Firefox 42?
  392. # [13:43] <MikeSmith> beginning of November? middle?
  393. # [13:44] * MikeSmith finds http://release.mozilla.org/planning/2015/01/13/release-schedule.html
  394. # [13:44] <MikeSmith> 2015-11-03
  395. # [13:44] <botie> 2001
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  397. # [13:45] <Ms2ger> Thank you botie
  398. # [13:46] <MikeSmith> yeah I got no idea what "feature" of botie produced that, but I approve
  399. # [13:46] <MikeSmith> botie++
  400. # [13:47] <smaug____> https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
  401. # [13:48] * MikeSmith looks
  402. # [13:50] <MikeSmith> oh geez I only now realize that botie is just doing simple subtraction there. that makes it much less interesting. I guess I had thought it was just picking some number at randome
  403. # [13:50] <Domenic> hahaha
  404. # [13:50] <MikeSmith> thanks smaug____
  405. # [13:50] <Domenic> botie is so endearingly dumb
  406. # [13:50] <MikeSmith> hah
  407. # [13:50] <MikeSmith> yeah
  408. # [13:52] <zcorpan> 1-2
  409. # [13:52] <zcorpan> :-|
  410. # [14:01] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: you gotta tell it the right way :p
  411. # [14:02] <zcorpan> 2015-11-2500
  412. # [14:02] <botie> -496
  413. # [14:04] <zcorpan> 2015-11-66000
  414. # [14:04] <botie> -63996
  415. # [14:04] <Domenic> =1-2
  416. # [14:04] <Domenic> 1-2=?
  417. # [14:04] <zcorpan> 2015-11-4294967296
  418. # [14:04] <botie> -4294965292
  419. # [14:04] <Domenic> uh oh
  420. # [14:05] <zcorpan> 2015-2016-4294967296
  421. # [14:05] <botie> -4294967297
  422. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> Kiddos... :)
  423. # [14:08] <zcorpan> 1-2-9007199254740992
  424. # [14:08] <botie> -9007199254740993
  425. # [14:08] <zcorpan> impressive
  426. # [14:08] <zcorpan> python?
  427. # [14:11] <zcorpan> next up, consume all for botie's RAM with a big number :-)
  428. # [14:12] <Ms2ger> Anyone harassing bots shall be punished :)
  429. # [14:17] <zcorpan> no chocolate? :-(
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  431. # [14:21] <Ms2ger> TabAtkins, wanna define @import in terms of Fetch?
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  448. # [15:21] <MikeSmith> annevk: FYI about the MDN SRI page, after talking with Francois I'm going to drop the Fetch-related bits there for now, and plan to re-add them later if/when they get re-added to the SRI spec
  449. # [15:22] <MikeSmith> (in light of https://github.com/w3c/webappsec/pull/460 「SRI: remove "Fetch Modifications" section」)
  450. # [15:26] <MikeSmith> gsnedders: does html5lib work under Python 3?
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  452. # [15:28] <Ms2ger> I think it should
  453. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> ok
  454. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> I figured it did but wasn't sure
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  468. # [16:21] <annevk> MikeSmith: well, fetch() will remain working for SRI
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  470. # [16:21] <annevk> MikeSmith: I guess the question is whether the MDN page should reflect the spec or the feature
  471. # [16:21] <annevk> MikeSmith: I'd think the latter, personally
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  474. # [16:22] <MikeSmith> annevk: it doesn't work in gecko yet, right? and I think Francois has found that it doesn't work yet in blink either
  475. # [16:22] <MikeSmith> and he's dropping it from the SRI spec for now
  476. # [16:22] <MikeSmith> that's what the PR does, right?
  477. # [16:22] <annevk> MikeSmith: no, the PR just reflects changes in Fetch
  478. # [16:23] <MikeSmith> oh ok
  479. # [16:23] <annevk> MikeSmith: integrity for fetch() is defined by Fetch
  480. # [16:23] <MikeSmith> ah yeah OK
  481. # [16:23] <annevk> MikeSmith: and we should define integrity for <link> and <script> in HTML, really
  482. # [16:23] <MikeSmith> yeah
  483. # [16:23] <MikeSmith> OK
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  486. # [16:26] <annevk> smaug____: you know you can submit PRs, right? ;-)
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  488. # [16:26] <smaug____> github...
  489. # [16:27] <smaug____> I could write a patch I guess
  490. # [16:27] <annevk> smaug____: it's a magical place
  491. # [16:27] * smaug____ wonders how to attach patches to github
  492. # [16:27] <smaug____> I guess it is somehow possible
  493. # [16:27] <annevk> smaug____: I'm happy to do it for you
  494. # [16:28] <annevk> smaug____: didn't realize you hadn't worked with PRs at all yet
  495. # [16:28] <smaug____> I'm very old school
  496. # [16:28] <smaug____> ancient beast
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  498. # [16:29] <annevk> from a children's fairy tale, right?
  499. # [16:30] <smaug____> I don't count any Tolkien's Middle-earth related work as children's fairy tale, just fairy tale ;)
  500. # [16:31] <annevk> I suppose, I thought the Hobbit was meant for children, but it's entertaining either way
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  502. # [16:32] <smaug____> (sure, it was was probably written for children, but sort of turned out to be also something else)
  503. # [16:34] <smaug____> annevk: actually I just noticed that PortCollection stuff again while reading about MessagePorts. I wonder how often MessagePorts are actually sent to some other window/worker after they've been started.
  504. # [16:35] <annevk> smaug____: not sure, I think baku has been fixing some of that stuff
  505. # [16:35] <smaug____> IMO the current setup is overengineered, but most probably too late to change
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  507. # [16:35] <smaug____> yeah, baku implemented MessagePorts
  508. # [16:35] <smaug____> I'm thinking about the spec
  509. # [16:36] <annevk> smaug____: you mean we should just have had simple message passing and no channels and all that?
  510. # [16:36] <smaug____> because jesup was asking about making DataChannel transferable
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  512. # [16:36] <annevk> cloneable or transferable?
  513. # [16:37] <smaug____> annevk: well, at least once a MessagePort is started, is there any good use case to transfer it?
  514. # [16:37] <smaug____> annevk: transferable
  515. # [16:37] <annevk> smaug____: I think Hixie had some use cases around services
  516. # [16:37] <smaug____> you'd get RTCDataChannel probably in the main thread and transfer it to some worker
  517. # [16:37] <annevk> smaug____: but it's been a while since I tried to look into that and it was probably too complicated for me anyway
  518. # [16:38] <smaug____> so I wonder if RTCDataChannel could actually have some tiny bit simpler setup
  519. # [16:38] <smaug____> oh well, I'll let jesup to sort this out
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  525. # [16:47] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: Yes I do.
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  529. # [16:50] <TabAtkins> roc: Ugh, sites like that are a stark example of why you should never give sites the ability to control scroll directly. The momentum is all fucked up and it really messes with me. >_<
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  554. # [17:34] <aleray> Hi, I have this piece of code using html5lib-python: http://dpaste.com/2WEDB88
  555. # [17:34] <aleray> do you know why I get `u'<p>Des outils sensibles'` instead of `u'<p>Des outils sensibles</p>'`
  556. # [17:34] <aleray> ?
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  558. # [17:41] <aleray> ok sorry I should have searched a little bit more before asking: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9107649/what-is-going-on-with-this-html5lib-script
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  569. # [18:02] <annevk> JakeA: https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/106#issuecomment-142218051
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  581. # [18:39] <annevk> The WebSocket plot thickens
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  583. # [18:39] <Hixie> lordy now what
  584. # [18:39] <annevk> Hixie: hey!
  585. # [18:40] <annevk> Hixie: nothing much, just trying to figure out HSTS/upgrade-insecure-requests/MIX for WebSocket in the face of the IETF not updating the spec
  586. # [18:40] <annevk> Hixie: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/180 has ramblings
  587. # [18:41] <Hixie> websocket is unaffected by hsts in theory. it's not http.
  588. # [18:41] <annevk> In practice it seems it kinda is
  589. # [18:42] <annevk> I very much expect that in browsers they go in the same Fetch pipeline as everything else
  590. # [18:42] <Hixie> figures
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  611. # [19:24] <Hixie> abarth: https://github.com/flutter/engine/pull/1344
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  616. # [19:52] <abarth> Hixie: https://github.com/flutter/engine/pull/1345 <--- moar tests
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  622. # [20:28] <abarth> Hixie: https://github.com/flutter/engine/pull/1346 <--- MOAR tests
  623. # [20:29] <terinjokes> does SRI make sense for scripts being served from your own domain (with TLS)?
  624. # [20:30] <terinjokes> seems like all the example are for loading content from CDNs
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  659. # [22:03] <MikeSmith> terinjokes: I think it might if you have some shared hosting setup where users might be able to overwrite other users scripts (either inadvertently or maliciously)
  660. # [22:06] <MikeSmith> or even if were on the same system working, and, e.g., you have some document that wants version X of some script and I have some document that wants version Y
  661. # [22:06] <MikeSmith> and we want to make sure versions are accidentally getting overwritten
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  663. # [22:07] <MikeSmith> so I guess it can also just be an additional level of integrity checking that you might want to have regardless of where you're hosting the scripts
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  665. # [22:08] <JonathanNeal> Sometimes I want to do something like `:root { font-size: 6.25%; }`, just so that 1rem = 1px so I can mark things up using similar numbers, but differentiate when I think the element should grow or shrink based on the font size.
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  676. # [22:38] <terinjokes> MikeSmith: i got a ticket to implement version fingerprinting/cache busting, was thinking that I just compute (and use) SRI, and just take some subset of the hash as the bust
  677. # [22:42] <MikeSmith> terinjokes: sounds workable
  678. # [22:42] <terinjokes> gracias
  679. # [22:43] <terinjokes> no plans to allow other users to modify the page, but who knows
  680. # [22:43] <terinjokes> ensuring we're delivering the right version is a nice addition though
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  685. # [22:52] <SimonSapin> Do browsers run html5lib tests?
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  688. # [22:55] <MikeSmith> SimonSapin: I believe Mozilla CI does, right?
  689. # [22:56] <MikeSmith> via wpt
  690. # [22:56] <MikeSmith> because they are incorporated into the wpt repo
  691. # [22:57] <MikeSmith> SimonSapin: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/html/syntax/parsing
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  693. # [22:58] <MikeSmith> the htmllib_*html files
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  696. # [23:07] <SimonSapin> MikeSmith: I’m trying to get the history right to explain html5lib vs libxml2 (lxml.html) in a blog post
  697. # [23:07] <SimonSapin> also, https://github.com/SimonSapin/html5ever-python :)
  698. # [23:09] <SimonSapin> MikeSmith: is it fair to call html5lib a reference implementation developed alongside the HTML parsing spec?
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  700. # [23:10] <MikeSmith> yes
  701. # [23:10] <MikeSmith> it is fair to say that
  702. # [23:10] <MikeSmith> it was the first implementation of the parsing algorithm
  703. # [23:11] <MikeSmith> ah nice to have the Python bindings for html5ever
  704. # [23:11] <MikeSmith> SimonSapin: and yeah it absolutely was developed alongside the parsing spec
  705. # [23:11] <MikeSmith> jgraham and gsnedders could give you more of the history
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