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  316. # [11:52] <FND> hi - could someone provide an authoritative assessment of the state of fetch here: https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j/issues/5628#issuecomment-148325581
  317. # [11:52] <FND> I reckon the CORS restrictions can be considered stable?
  318. # [11:59] <MikeSmith> FND: CORS restrictions can definitely be considered stable
  319. # [11:59] <FND> MikeSmith: would you mind commenting as much on the ticket - or should I just quote you?
  320. # [12:00] <MikeSmith> FND: I will reply there right now
  321. # [12:00] <FND> thank you!
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  326. # [12:07] <annevk> FND: note that just supplying the Origin is not sufficient
  327. # [12:07] <annevk> FND: you also need to have Access-Control-Allow-Credentials
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  330. # [12:08] <annevk> FND: however, do you really need to allow for credentials in your request?
  331. # [12:09] <FND> annevk: yeah, I'm aware of that - in this case, I'm writing an SPA on top of Neo4j's REST API, both of which are only accessible behind Basic Auth
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  334. # [12:10] <annevk> FND: note that if you pass credentials yourself, you might not necessarily need credentials: include
  335. # [12:10] <FND> annevk: I don't quite follow
  336. # [12:10] <annevk> FND: the credentials parameter is really only for browser-supplied credentials, such as previously set cookies or stored authentication data
  337. # [12:10] <annevk> FND: I need to explain that better in the specification at some point, but it's somewhat complicated :/
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  339. # [12:11] <MikeSmith> I commented at https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j/issues/5628#issuecomment-148341540
  340. # [12:11] <FND> ah, right, of course - thus the Basic Auth mention above
  341. # [12:11] <FND> thanks MikeSmith!
  342. # [12:11] <MikeSmith> annevk maybe should comment there as well I suppose
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  344. # [12:11] <annevk> FND: yeah, if you don't set the Authorization header yourself, I guess you'll need to have credentials included
  345. # [12:11] <MikeSmith> FND: thanks for the heads-up
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  349. # [12:16] <FND> thanks guys, this was a delightfully straightforward interaction
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  362. # [13:11] <FND> annevk: thanks for the clarification on that ticket - so am I to assume that ikwattro's assertion regarding non-fetch CORS requests doesn't apply for withCredentials?
  363. # [13:11] <annevk> FND: I'm not sure what you mean by that
  364. # [13:12] <annevk> FND: fetch() and XMLHttpRequest basically do the same thing, fetch() just has a couple more settings
  365. # [13:12] <FND> so ikwattro said "I can make CORS requests (without fetch) to a local neo4j instance from a web application without problems"
  366. # [13:12] <FND> but he's probably only tested it without credentials then?
  367. # [13:12] <annevk> FND: I suppose that he hasn't set withCredentials to true there, yes
  368. # [13:12] <FND> roger, thank you
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  373. # [13:51] <mkwst> annevk: Is the first item of a request's `url list` something I could safely reference to grab the URL that a page thinks that it's requesting?
  374. # [13:51] <annevk> mkwst: you could just use request's url
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  376. # [13:52] <mkwst> Oh. I though the url was changed during redirects.
  377. # [13:53] <mkwst> Yeah, I guess I misread. That's simpler. Thanks! :)
  378. # [13:54] <annevk> That changed a while back to make Request / request more similar
  379. # [13:54] <mkwst> Makes sense. :)
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  405. # [15:22] <annevk> gsnedders: what's the deal with https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/html5lib-discuss?
  406. # [15:22] <annevk> gsnedders: abandoned?
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  408. # [15:24] <Ms2ger> Sounds likely
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  412. # [15:35] <nox> I have a PR on Servo that updates various WPT tests to use latest interfaces defined in the URL spec btw.
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  416. # [15:49] <gsnedders> annevk: it, uh, theoretically still exists.
  417. # [15:50] <gsnedders> annevk: de-facto StackOverflow has kinda taken over
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  422. # [16:02] <Ms2ger> <html requestVisibility=1>
  423. # [16:03] <Ms2ger> I hope someone is reviewing this...
  424. # [16:03] <jgraham> ?
  425. # [16:04] <annevk> Ms2ger: what is that?
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  428. # [16:05] <Ms2ger> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/qRGtrVZ1X98
  429. # [16:07] <annevk> Ms2ger: ah, the one email I didn't read
  430. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> Heh
  431. # [16:08] <annevk> Ms2ger: that proposal didn't really seem thought out
  432. # [16:08] <Ms2ger> I stopped reading at the first code snippet
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  583. # [23:25] <TabAtkins> Anyone know the reasoning behind moving WebAppsWG to WPWG?
  584. # [23:27] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: merging in the HTML WG, given it was
  585. # [23:28] <TabAtkins> ...and why does that require closing WebApps?
  586. # [23:28] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: the charter expired
  587. # [23:28] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: and rechartering is essentially creating a new WG
  588. # [23:28] <TabAtkins> ...and why does that require closing WebApps (rather than just reupping the charter)?
  589. # [23:28] <TabAtkins> "essentially", but requires everyone to move over and re-join.
  590. # [23:29] <gsnedders> MikeSmith said something about rechartering (as opposed to extensions) requiring everyone to rejoin anyway.
  591. # [23:30] <jgraham> Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to get on with useful work in whatever forum and let the lawyers keep themselves country clubs arguing over the rest.
  592. # [23:30] * jgraham is not exactly Tennyson
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