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  1. # Session Start: Sat Oct 24 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #whatwg
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  6. # [00:06] <sicking> Domenic: i would be a very happy camper if we got sequence_with_item<> in WebIDL. Or if ES Arrays grew a .item() function. Though the latter is probably not web compatible given that even adding .contains() wasn't possible.
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  8. # [00:07] <sicking> Domenic: hmm... we probably need FrozenArrrayWithItem actually
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  14. # [00:25] <TabAtkins> sicking: It's just getter/setter pairs in JS. WebIDL supports it. All "attributes" in WebIDL are actually getter/setter pairs when translated to JS, too.
  15. # [00:25] <sicking> TabAtkins: ok, this is some WebIDL feature I don't know about then
  16. # [00:26] <TabAtkins> Again, this isn't WebIDL. It's JS. WebIDL just supports it.
  17. # [00:26] <sicking> i don't know what you mean by "WebIDL just supports it"
  18. # [00:26] <sicking> i know JS has getters and setters. That doesn't mean that webidl can do what Dominic is asking for
  19. # [00:27] <TabAtkins> WebIDL has syntax to express it.
  20. # [00:27] <sicking> if that's the case, then that's some WebIDL feature that I don't know about
  21. # [00:28] <TabAtkins> I'm still confused. There's nothing to "know about". If you know about JS getters and setters, then you know about WebIDL ones. The only detail is the precise way to write one in an interface.
  22. # [00:28] <sicking> i just know about "[readonly] attribute <type> <name>"
  23. # [00:28] <sicking> which is not enough here
  24. # [00:29] <sicking> since Dominic was asking for different types for the getter and setter
  25. # [00:29] <TabAtkins> I'm not convinced you know about JS getters and setters here. ^_^
  26. # [00:29] <sicking> ok
  27. # [00:29] <TabAtkins> ^_^
  28. # [00:29] <TabAtkins> You just have a getter that takes a sequence, converts it to a FileList, and assigns that to the internal [[files]] slot. Then a setter that returns the [[files]] slot.
  29. # [00:29] <sicking> show me the WebIDL syntax
  30. # [00:30] <sicking> i know perfectly well that JS suppots this
  31. # [00:30] <sicking> i haven't claimed otherwise
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  35. # [00:31] <TabAtkins> Okay, I'm the stupid one here. I'm recalling a WebIDL bug that heycam hasn't fixed yet. IDL getter/setter is for proxies. Ugh.
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  37. # [00:32] <sicking> cool
  38. # [00:32] <TabAtkins> Sorry about that.
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  40. # [00:32] <sicking> no worries, glad we came to clarity :)
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  63. # [01:48] <jsbell> tuning in late, but sicking: stats show it'll be difficult to remove .items() on the DSL from Location.ancestorOrigins and .contains() on the DSLs from IndexedDB :(
  64. # [01:49] <jsbell> (i.e. yeah, sequence_with_XXX<> looks necessary)
  65. # [01:49] <jsbell> I'll mail webapps when I have cycles to care
  66. # [01:49] <sicking> jsbell: yup. That was my expectation
  67. # [01:49] <sicking> jsbell: heh
  68. # [01:50] <sicking> jsbell: Gecko is blocked by still not supporting subclassing Array as I understand it
  69. # [01:50] <sicking> once that is possible I'd like to simply switch a few classes over rather than waiting for WebIDL to catch up
  70. # [01:51] <jsbell> We welcome your implementation feedback. ;-)
  71. # [01:51] <sicking> cool :)
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  80. # [02:19] <Domenic> Yeah +1 to just making things happen once subclasses show up
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  466. # [21:45] <nox> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/forms.html#labeled-control 'If the attribute is specified, the attribute's value must be the ID of a labelable element in the same Document as the label element.' Is that true regardless whether the label is in the tree or not?
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  484. # [23:27] <nox> "in the same Document" should probably refer to https://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#in-a-document in some way so that no one has to wonder about that ever again.
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  486. # [23:37] <frewsxcv> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/283
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