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  261. # [10:46] <mkwst> annevk: I've started spelling out the fetch implications of priming in a bit more detail: https://mikewest.github.io/hsts-priming/#modifications-fetch-main Suggestions welcome.
  262. # [10:46] <mkwst> annevk: agl didn't seem to hate it.
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  357. # [15:08] <annevk> mkwst: great success
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  359. # [15:11] <annevk> mkwst: that looks pretty good
  360. # [15:11] <annevk> mkwst: thank you
  361. # [15:12] <mkwst> annevk: I figure we throw this to the wolves, and once there's some agreement, you or Richard or I can turn it into a set of patches against Fetch.
  362. # [15:12] <mkwst> annevk: And I guess I'll try to get Jeff interested in updating the RFC to give Fetch some hooks.
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  365. # [15:25] <annevk> mkwst: that sounds good
  366. # [15:26] <annevk> mkwst: might do some bikeshedding at that point, but for a discussion this seems good
  367. # [15:27] <mkwst> Yeah, I don't plan on nailing everything down. This is a quick first pass to have something concrete to argue about.
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  379. # [15:56] <zcorpan> https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/246
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  396. # [16:44] <annevk> JakeA: any opinions on https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/issues/40?
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  398. # [16:45] <wanderview> annevk: that means "from http cache", right? or also Cache API?
  399. # [16:45] <annevk> wanderview: just HTTP
  400. # [16:46] <annevk> wanderview: perhaps we should rename the RequestOptions cache httpCache?
  401. # [16:46] <annevk> wanderview: and this fromHTTPCache?
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  403. # [16:46] <annevk> hmm
  404. # [16:46] <annevk> I guess it's clear enough
  405. # [16:46] <wanderview> annevk: not sure... I don't like those
  406. # [16:47] <wanderview> annevk: I guess Response is standalone and Cache API is another layer... makes sense they are unrelated... but I could see it confusing people
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  408. # [16:47] <annevk> yeah me neither, and we don't prefix lots of other HTTP stuff with HTTP either
  409. # [16:47] <JakeA> annevk: I'm not sure what I'd use it for
  410. # [16:47] <wanderview> annevk: lets rename Cache API to FetchStore again :-)
  411. # [16:48] <JakeA> Boooo
  412. # [16:48] <annevk> That would have been a lot better name given that it's not actually a cache
  413. # [16:51] <annevk> JakeA: https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/412#issuecomment-57635369 is the argument for this addition, but I haven't really hard anyone ask for it so maybe we should not do it
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  418. # [17:00] <annevk> So confusing how code.google.com redirects to you to the issues overview after adding a comment to an issue
  419. # [17:01] <wanderview> annevk: bugzilla does the same, no?
  420. # [17:01] <caitp> there's a setting
  421. # [17:01] <annevk> wanderview: yeah, Bugzilla often shows the same bug for me, sometimes the next one in a listing
  422. # [17:02] <annevk> s/yeah, //
  423. # [17:03] <caitp> there used to be a setting, huh
  424. # [17:03] <caitp> i guess there still is, it just doesn't get saved to your profile? weird
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  426. # [17:04] <caitp> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hata33lawvez1c/Screen%20Shot%202015-11-06%20at%2011.04.04%20AM.png?dl=0 << that thing, unless you don't get that option normally
  427. # [17:08] <annevk> interesting
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  448. # [17:48] <mkwst> annevk: you'll be thrilled to know that code.google.com is dying, and we're building a whole new bug tracker for crbug.com!
  449. # [17:48] <mkwst> annevk: I'm sure that will be a wonderful experience for everyone.
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  457. # [18:06] <annevk> mkwst: hmm so maybe change noopener link attribute to 'noopener' <link rel> keyword?
  458. # [18:06] <annevk> mkwst: in the commit message
  459. # [18:07] <mkwst> annevk: Sure. Pushed.
  460. # [18:08] <annevk> mkwst: also, the link syntax looks wrong per https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#link though maybe GitHub does something else
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  463. # [18:08] <annevk> oooh cool
  464. # [18:09] <annevk> he switched to HTTPS
  465. # [18:09] <mkwst> Ha, yeah. I don't actually use the inline syntax. I'll fix it.
  466. # [18:09] <annevk> no HSTS yet
  467. # [18:10] <mkwst> annevk: I'm not getting redirected. I suspect you're using HTTPS Everywhere?
  468. # [18:10] <mkwst> (which is good)
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  470. # [18:11] <annevk> I don't think so
  471. # [18:11] <mkwst> (pushed a fix to the markdown)
  472. # [18:11] <annevk> ooh
  473. # [18:11] <annevk> I think I found that link on Google
  474. # [18:11] <annevk> So Google might do some HTTPS Everywhere of sorts or just index both and rank this one higher
  475. # [18:12] <annevk> interesting
  476. # [18:12] <mkwst> That crazy Google. Who knows what it'll do next?
  477. # [18:12] <annevk> mkwst: you didn't confirm my question btw
  478. # [18:13] <annevk> mkwst: but I guess that means it's a yes, we still need to fix #313
  479. # [18:15] * annevk is gonna assume he got all that correct
  480. # [18:16] <mkwst> annevk: Yes. Sorry, there's probably some work to do there.
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  482. # [18:16] <mkwst> At least we'll need to make "disowned its owner" actually clear out the owner browsing context.
  483. # [18:16] <mkwst> And probably other things that bz knows about that I don't.
  484. # [18:16] <annevk> mkwst: yeah, I think that's all there is to it
  485. # [18:17] <annevk> mkwst: plus perhaps a note that this turns it from an auxiliary browsing context into a top-level one
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  488. # [18:18] <mkwst> I think we may need to do more than that. "familiar with" seems a bit too loose, for example.
  489. # [18:19] <mkwst> but I'm kinda hoping that bz will spell out the things he'd like to see changed? :)
  490. # [18:20] <annevk> mkwst: my suggestion for the commit message was silly, should've been rel=noopener of course, <link> has nothing to do with it
  491. # [18:20] * annevk blames the time
  492. # [18:20] <annevk> mkwst: familiar with just builds on it being auxiliary
  493. # [18:21] <annevk> mkwst: at least last time I probed bz that seemed to be it, but willing to be surprised
  494. # [18:21] <mkwst> Same origin as well.
  495. # [18:23] <mkwst> That is, if https://a.com nested in http://b.com opens https://a.com in a new window with 'noopener', I'd like it to be unfamiliar.
  496. # [18:23] <mkwst> (pushed another new commit message :) )
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  498. # [18:23] <annevk> mkwst: too late, already merged
  499. # [18:24] <annevk> mkwst: just noticed we need to change the IDL for window.open() too
  500. # [18:24] <annevk> mkwst: but I can do that
  501. # [18:24] <mkwst> CC me on the patch, just so I know what to do next time?
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  504. # [18:27] <annevk> mkwst: https://github.com/whatwg/html/commit/1cf14758fda3d7c157c0a89334bd3bc0cad7686e
  505. # [18:28] <mkwst> annevk: Got it, thanks.
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