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  201. # [09:56] <JakeA> wanderview: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=567615
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  215. # [11:19] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: why this warning?
  216. # [11:19] <zcorpan> Warning: Element dl does not need a role attribute.
  217. # [11:19] <zcorpan> From line 4468, column 4; to line 4468, column 32
  218. # [11:19] <zcorpan> </pre>↩ <dl class="note" role="note">↩ <
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  223. # [11:21] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: also i seem to get a 504 Gateway Time-out from validator.nu and html5.validator.nu
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  230. # [11:36] <MikeSmith> hsivonen: validator.nu and html5.validator.nu trouble
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  233. # [11:38] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: yeah that's warning for that case seems like a bug
  234. # [11:39] <MikeSmith> I think the ARIA in HTML spec actually says no role value is allowed on dl at all
  235. # [11:39] * MikeSmith looks at validator sources
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  270. # [13:32] <ondras> so
  271. # [13:32] <ondras> is there some authoritative statement regarding the extension presence in "import x from 'y{.js}'" ?
  272. # [13:33] <ondras> babel6 seems to encourage extension-less module names
  273. # [13:33] <ondras> babel5 supports both
  274. # [13:33] <ondras> and as time goes, I have heard people recommending both variants.
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  278. # [13:40] <hsivonen> MikeSmith: fixed
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  322. # [16:48] <caitp> ondras: have you looked at the loader repo?
  323. # [16:48] <caitp> haven't really been keeping up with it, but I expect the extension will be required
  324. # [16:50] <caitp> or rather, it won't add the ".js" for you
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  360. # [18:13] <JakeA> annevk: if an API isn't available (private browsing, or missing dependencies), should the API be there but fail, or be absent?
  361. # [18:14] <JakeA> I vaguely recall a discussion about this
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  374. # [19:17] <Domenic> ondras: since you are just using Babel's nonstandard version of modules you should do whatever babel says. It's not real ES6 anyway.
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  383. # [19:50] <jsbell> Ms2ger: can I get a do-over on https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/r/6039 ?
  384. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> mtg
  385. # [19:50] <jsbell> np
  386. # [19:50] <Ms2ger> Also all of this week :)
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  388. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> But will try to look later, thanks for the fix
  389. # [19:51] <jsbell> In unrelated news, for t in $ALL_THE_TOOLS { I hate $t }
  390. # [19:51] <Ms2ger> :D
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  394. # [20:10] <wanderview> JakeA: thanks!
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  396. # [20:12] <annevk> JakeA: not sure that is standardized
  397. # [20:13] <annevk> JakeA: absent seems safe when it does not work, but private browsing has its own considerations
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  403. # [20:33] <JakeA> Cheers
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  411. # [20:51] <mkwst> JakeA: Generally, we'd like private/incognito/whatever to look just like "real" mode.
  412. # [20:52] <mkwst> Practically, we fall down in a number of places, so Incognito is totally detectable. I see that as a bug, I just haven't really been able to convince folks who know how to fix things to agree with my prioritizations. :)
  413. # [20:53] <JakeA> mkwst: in this case we're trying to work out if we expose background sync if the version of play services isn't recent enough
  414. # [20:54] <JakeA> Either expose it and it rejects, or not expose it
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  425. # [21:13] <ondras> caitp: what repo exactly?
  426. # [21:13] <caitp> https://github.com/whatwg/loader
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  428. # [21:13] <ondras> caitp: thanks for the link, will have a look
  429. # [21:13] <caitp> although it looks like the "name resolution" bit still hasn't been figured out
  430. # [21:14] <ondras> would love to reply do Domenic, but he already left
  431. # [21:14] <ondras> will try again tomorrow.
  432. # [21:14] <Domenic> OR DID HE
  433. # [21:14] <caitp> he's around
  434. # [21:14] <ondras> MAGIC
  435. # [21:14] <ondras> why did my irssi fail to complete the nick
  436. # [21:14] <ondras> mystery.
  437. # [21:14] <ondras> Domenic: so please point me to the real ES6 way then
  438. # [21:15] <ondras> Domenic: I know how to do stuff with Babel; I am now more interested in what is the real deal going to be
  439. # [21:15] <Domenic> ondras: there is no defined way yet. That is why modules are not implemented anywhere.
  440. # [21:15] <ondras> right
  441. # [21:15] <Domenic> Babel just made something up so they could ship
  442. # [21:15] <ondras> Domenic: my point is that perhaps people are converging onto something? or still 50/50?
  443. # [21:16] <caitp> Domenic: it's probably likely that the behaviour will be similar to other resources loaded by the browser
  444. # [21:16] <Domenic> ondras: I would bet with 80% odds on the .js being required, as caitp says. But there's a substantial amount of uncertainty still.
  445. # [21:16] <ondras> Domenic: okay, thanks. Precisely the opinion I was looking for.
  446. # [21:17] <ondras> (I submitted this as babel6 bug not long ago, no reply so far...)
  447. # [21:17] <Domenic> I prefer not to use things that are unspecified though
  448. # [21:17] <caitp> iirc the confusing bit was WRT relative-to-base vs relative-to-module-uri
  449. # [21:17] <caitp> or something like that
  450. # [21:17] <Domenic> vs. relative-to-module-id
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  515. # [23:27] <Mek> smaug____: I don't think anybody is actively working on it, but according to https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/4585496197988352 jsbell might be able to give a more concrete answer
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