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# [00:00] <annevk> Ms2ger: good ideas appreciated btw, but you know that
# [00:02] <Ms2ger> annevk, yeah, I never really read the fetch spec entirely, so I have no good mental model at this point, unfortunately
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# [10:47] <JakeA> annevk: given https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/comms.html#the-eventsource-interface sets a non-simple header, should it trigger a preflight for cross-origin urls? If not, which part of the fetch spec stops this?
# [10:48] <JakeA> annevk: ignore me, sorry
# [10:48] <JakeA> fffff
# [10:48] <JakeA> misread
# [10:57] <zcorpan> should we put something in the bug whiteboard for things like https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29329
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# [11:25] <JakeA> annevk: maybe of interest https://github.com/igrigorik/http-client-hints/issues/68
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# [11:36] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: in the whiteboard maybe we could put the URL for the PR? either that or the URL for the commit
# [11:38] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: actually it's possible to search for /pull/ in comments, so i think it's not necessary to use the whiteboard
# [11:39] <zcorpan> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=HTML5%20spec&list_id=60910&longdesc=%2Fpull%2F&longdesc_type=casesubstring&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&;resolution=---
# [11:41] <zcorpan> or rather https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=HTML5%20spec&list_id=60911&longdesc=whatwg%2Fhtml%2Fpull%2F&longdesc_type=casesubstring&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&;resolution=---
# [11:48] <zcorpan> but some open bugs are invalid. maybe whiteboard is better anyway, whatwg-resolved
# [11:51] <MikeSmith> oh clever
# [11:51] <MikeSmith> but yeah maybe whatwg-resolved
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# [12:03] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: btw I just now notice the git log output for that commit shows you as the committer even though I merged it
# [12:03] <MikeSmith> which I kind of like actually
# [12:04] <MikeSmith> because the PR itself still records the fact that somebody other than you merged it
# [12:04] <zcorpan> yeah. though the commit doesn't have any pointer to the PR, does it?
# [12:04] <MikeSmith> but I don't know what I did differently that caused it to end up being logged that way
# [12:04] <jgraham> Presumably the merge commit shows that you created/comitted it and the commit itself shows that zcorpan comitted it? Unless you aren't merging
# [12:05] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: oh. no it doesn't
# [12:05] <zcorpan> jgraham: merge --ff-only
# [12:05] <MikeSmith> jgraham: what zcorpan just said
# [12:06] <MikeSmith> I wonder if the cause of this is that I already have all branches for all the PRs checked out
# [12:06] <MikeSmith> otherwise I don't know what would be different in my local environment
# [12:07] <MikeSmith> because I think I use the same process to merge PRs
# [12:07] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: i think it's usually like this if the merger doesn't make any changes
# [12:07] <MikeSmith> ah OK
# [12:07] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: but often we tweak the commit message or fix other things
# [12:07] <MikeSmith> aha
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# [13:57] <yoav> annevk: thoughts on decoupling "supported tokens" redefinition from https://github.com/whatwg/dom/pull/123 ?
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# [17:48] <MikeSmith> wonder what the status of the Foreign Fetch proposal is at this point
# [17:49] <MikeSmith> I know about https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Foreign_Fetch but don't know if it's yet graduated out from there to anywhere else yet
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# [18:32] <calvaris> Domenic: do you have a moment?
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# [18:36] <nikkibee> https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#http-fetch the "set response's CSP list" link in substep 5 of step 3 leads to a 404
# [18:36] <nikkibee> https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-csp/#set-response-csp-list this seems to be the correct url to link to
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# [18:39] <MikeSmith> nikkibee: yeah I recall finding at least one other broken reference in the Fetch spec a couple months ago, due the CSP anchors having changed
# [18:40] <gsnedders> nikkibee: just open a bug/PR at https://github.com/whatwg/fetch
# [18:40] <nikkibee> MikeSmith: that's annoying... although the new url actually matches the phrase, I guess
# [18:40] <nikkibee> sure thing gsnedders
# [18:42] <gsnedders> nikkibee: assuming the link is actually in overview.src.html
# [18:42] <nikkibee> yep, I found it in there
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# [18:43] <nikkibee> if I make a PR for it should I open a bug for it first?
# [18:43] <gsnedders> I don't think you need to?
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# [18:43] <gsnedders> esp. for something so simple and not any normative change
# [18:44] <nikkibee> alright
# [18:50] <Domenic> calvaris: at lunch but sure
# [18:50] <nikkibee> https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/pull/173 PR made
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# [18:52] <calvaris> Domenic: https://github.com/whatwg/streams/blob/master/reference-implementation/web-platform-tests/readable-streams/cancel.js#L9
# [18:52] <calvaris> if I understand correctly
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# [18:52] <calvaris> readableStreamToArray begins to read chunks
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# [18:53] <calvaris> after about 15ms + promise vending the reader is canceled
# [18:54] <calvaris> that causes the current read to be vended as done
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# [18:54] <Domenic> Sounds right
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# [18:56] <calvaris> that should cause the internal read cascade is vended too
# [19:00] <calvaris> meanwhile, the source cancel is called an the cancel promise is created with the timeout to be vended 1s after
# [19:00] <calvaris> I don't know if it is normal or not
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# [19:02] <calvaris> which causes the cancellationFinished to be true
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# [19:02] <calvaris> I am not sure if that should/can happen or not
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# [19:03] <Domenic> calvaris: well the test does use timers which means it is prone to such flakes
# [19:03] <calvaris> because if I am not wrong, the cascade of reads has to be resolved
# [19:03] <Domenic> But it's surprising that your timers for 15 ms can fire before your timer for 1 ms
# [19:03] <calvaris> and that can mess in some cases with the timers
# [19:04] <calvaris> no, that does not happen
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# [19:04] <calvaris> well, it does, but of course because it is the 15ms timeout that causes the 1ms to be set to run
# [19:05] <Domenic> Uh, why?
# [19:05] <Domenic> Oh I see what you mean
# [19:05] <calvaris> the source cancel timeout is set as a result of calling reader.cancel()
# [19:06] <calvaris> so that's working as it should
# [19:06] <Domenic> Well RandomPushSource should only take 2 ms to give you a chunk
# [19:08] <calvaris> that's not the issue, I guess, the issue seems to be the asynchronous stuff happening with promise vending
# [19:08] <calvaris> because the reads are vended before and there's a cascade of several reads that have to be vended to be returned by readableStreamToArray
# [19:10] <calvaris> and then we have the call to the source, which creates the promise that sets timeout to reset the boolean to true and vends the cancel promise
# [19:10] <Domenic> Stepping back, what is actually the problem with the ordering you see. It doesn't cause failure does it?
# [19:10] <calvaris> it does cause failure
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# [19:10] <Domenic> Oh it does because cancelationFinished
# [19:10] <calvaris> yep
# [19:11] <Domenic> I see
# [19:11] <Domenic> OK this is actually something important being tested...
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# [19:11] <Domenic> Can you file an issue so I am able to write this up better when I get back to my computer?
# [19:11] <calvaris> sure
# [19:12] <calvaris> and thanks for answering during your lunch
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# [20:12] <Ms2ger> jgraham, ^
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# [21:48] <annevk> rbyers: could you ping me early next week if I haven't started reviewing your work?
# [21:48] <rbyers> annevk: Sure, would love to :-)
# [21:48] <annevk> rbyers: there's been some vacation and Mozilla week is now so...
# [21:49] <rbyers> Figured I had no business bothering you after I disappeared for a month ;-)
# [21:49] <annevk> heh, don't worry
# [21:50] <rbyers> Thanks though! We're preceding with implementation under the assumption that it's mostly minor details and editorial left to agree on... Lots of tough implementation work to do to get the real perf benefit from passive listeners...
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# [22:05] <nikkibee> annevk: I can't figure out what's wrong with my link in https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/pull/173
# [22:05] <nikkibee> the url works for me, and it matches the section named in the text
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# [22:09] <annevk> nikkibee: there's another broken link
# [22:09] <annevk> nikkibee: there's two identical wrong links, you only replaced one, afaict
# [22:09] <nikkibee> ohh, I see!
# [22:10] <nikkibee> I had not thought of that
# [22:10] <nox> nikkibee: Hello here, good luck with Fetch. :)
# [22:10] <nikkibee> thanks nox!
# [22:11] <nikkibee> annevk: fixed and pushed. would you like me to combine my two commits into one before merging it?
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# [22:12] <annevk> nikkibee: if you can, that'd be lovely
# [22:12] <nikkibee> sure thing
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# [22:21] <nikkibee> I keep forgetting how to squash my commits... I'm going to have ot just write it down on paper after I dig up my history on it yet again
# [22:21] <annevk> nikkibee: so yeah, rebase -i HEAD~{number of commits that need to go together}
# [22:22] <annevk> nikkibee: I have to search for it every time
# [22:22] <annevk> so annoying
# [22:22] <nikkibee> annevk: heh, at least I'm not the only one...
# [22:22] <gsnedders> the other thing that's useful is: git rebase -i `git merge-base origin/master HEAD`
# [22:22] <nikkibee> I just remember I can never figure out all the steps myself
# [22:22] <gsnedders> quite possibly with --autosquash
# [22:23] <nikkibee> I'll tr ythat
# [22:23] <nikkibee> gsnedders: are those supposed to be two lines? I don't understand how to run that
# [22:24] <gsnedders> (--autosquash moves the initial state around if you've used `git commit --fixup= or --squash=` before)
# [22:24] <gsnedders> nikkibee: one command. git rebase -i --autosquash `git merge-base origin/master HEAD`
# [22:25] <nikkibee> git just tells me my usage options, it doesn't accept that line
# [22:25] <nikkibee> I'm using it exactly as you typed it
# [22:25] <gsnedders> with the backticks?
# [22:26] <nikkibee> yeah
# [22:26] <gsnedders> because that /should/ work. what part is it objecting to?
# [22:26] <gsnedders> the first line before the help should be the error, IIRC
# [22:26] <nikkibee> I get no error
# [22:27] <nikkibee> it just goes straight to "usage: git rebase [-i] [options] [--exec <cmd>] [--onto <newbase>] [<upstream>]" etc
# [22:27] <nikkibee> oh wait, should I be using that --exec flag?
# [22:28] <gsnedders> no
# [22:28] <nikkibee> okay
# [22:28] <gsnedders> no error? that's really weird
# [22:28] <gsnedders> what version of git, actually?
# [22:28] <nikkibee> git version 1.9.5.msysgit.0
# [22:29] <nikkibee> I'm on windows, if that makes any difference
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# [22:29] <caitp> that is a pretty oldschool git
# [22:29] <gsnedders> nikkibee: oh, that won't support --autosquash
# [22:30] <gsnedders> sorry, I've not touched git < 2 in a while :)
# [22:30] <nikkibee> gsnedders: I got the same result with the first command
# [22:30] <nikkibee> git is beyond version 2?
# [22:30] <gsnedders> 2.6.something now
# [22:30] <nikkibee> oh geeze
# [22:30] <nikkibee> I didn't know I was so out of date what the heck
# [22:30] <gsnedders> I dunno if the Windows port stays up to date nowadays.
# [22:30] <gsnedders> I haven't paid attention to that in ages.
# [22:30] <nikkibee> it does, it's 2.6 something as well
# [22:31] <gsnedders> --fixup and --squash on commit are great features with --autosquash
# [22:32] <gsnedders> idk why it's failing without --autosquash, really, but if you're so out of date update first!
# [22:32] <nikkibee> ya I'm updating
# [22:33] <nikkibee> I don't know how I got such an out of date version... I would have first installed it like 10 months ago on this laptop?
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# [22:34] <nikkibee> damn, it's still doing this annoying non-error
# [22:35] <caitp> what is the annoying non-error?
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# [22:36] <nikkibee> it just tells me usage options for git rebase
# [22:36] <nikkibee> it doesnt' tell me what is wrong
# [22:36] <caitp> it doesn't say "error: unknown switch" or something before that?
# [22:37] <nikkibee> no, nothing of the sort
# [22:38] <nikkibee> I found the old logs from before where I first learned how to do git rebase, I'll just try following that
# [22:38] <nikkibee> and then write it down for prosperity, finally
# [22:39] <nikkibee> I thoguht I had before but I can't find it
# [22:42] <nikkibee> there we go... one commit now on the PR @ annevk!
# [22:42] <annevk> oh wow, sorry you went through all that trouble
# [22:42] <nikkibee> thanks for the suggestion thoguh gsnedders, I'm used to git on windows being uniquely obtuse
# [22:42] <nikkibee> it's okay annevk, figuring it out the first time was much worse!
# [22:45] <annevk> nikkibee: congrats on your first commit!
# [22:45] <nikkibee> thanks annevk :)
# [22:45] <nikkibee> I've contributed to whatwg before though. having contributed to two different standards is pretty nifty though
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# [22:47] <annevk> next: write a standard :😃
# [22:47] <nikkibee> haha
# [22:48] <nikkibee> I would, but there's just too many standards
# [22:48] <nox> nikkibee: s/on windows/
# [22:48] <nikkibee> oh, I should write a standard for writing standards. that'll solve everything! ;)
# [22:48] <nox> Git is obtuse, bad, and we all suffer from Stockholm's syndrome.
# [22:48] <nikkibee> nox: that seems to be my impression
# [22:48] <nikkibee> only on windows tho does it force you to know about CRLF settings
# [22:49] <nikkibee> there's a special git error that only comes up on windows I ran into once, git kept saying some files I never edited were changed and wouldn't let me push or pull from this persons repo, even if I downloaded it again. cause it was changing the CRLFs in the files, which shows up as nothing
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# [22:53] <nikkibee> CRLF is messed up
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# [23:22] <jgraham> Hmm, git < 2 supports autosquash, windows doesn't support backticks (possibly)
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# [23:28] <gsnedders> I was about to say what jgraham just said.
# [23:28] <gsnedders> Just realising that.
# [23:30] <Ms2ger> What's --squash?
# [23:32] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: The difference between --squash and --fixup is --squash keeps the commit message, --fixup drops it
# [23:33] <Ms2ger> So you end up with fo\n\nbar or something?
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# [23:34] <jgraham> It's just the same as the options in the rebase UI
# [23:34] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: yeah
# [23:34] <gsnedders> what jgraham said, too
# [23:34] <gsnedders> the use of the flags on git commit is just for the sake of autosquash
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