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  4. # [00:01] <MikeSmith> obviously it's an ugly hack the only alernative is that we need to teach wattsi how to calculate the offset so that it reports the correct line numbers even when run just once against the pre-processed source (instead of the original raw source)
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  6. # [00:02] <MikeSmith> and we should probably do that eventually but it would require substantially more work laboring in Pascal code
  7. # [00:04] <MikeSmith> given all that if you have a better idea of how to handle the error reporting that doesn't require caching it like this is doing, then that would be great
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  72. # [04:52] <MikeSmith> Yeah I guess we should just make it always by credit default print out that file
  73. # [04:54] <MikeSmith> But if the "quiet" option is set, only print the file out if there are errors
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  119. # [09:29] <zcorpan> can FrozenArray<DOMString> be used for a live array?
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  124. # [09:41] <MikeSmith> > zcorpan: MikeSmith: ok. but can it print the content of that file even on success?
  125. # [09:41] <MikeSmith> Yeah I guess we should just make it always by credit default print out that file
  126. # [09:41] <MikeSmith> But if the "quiet" option is set, only print the file out if there are errors
  127. # [09:42] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: also a question for you: do you care much whether wattsi emits its messages to stdout or stderr
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  129. # [09:43] <MikeSmith> it seems to me that it rightly should be emitting all its messages to stderr
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  131. # [09:43] <MikeSmith> it seems like you were initially surprised to see that it was sending them to stdout
  132. # [09:43] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: sounds good. i tried implementing that this morning but didn't get the logic right :-)
  133. # [09:43] <MikeSmith> ok I'll try it today
  134. # [09:43] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: i don't really care about stderr vs stdout
  135. # [09:44] <MikeSmith> ah ok
  136. # [09:44] <MikeSmith> I guess I won't bother changing it then
  137. # [09:45] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: but do you think it's important that wattsi exit non-zero if there are errors?
  138. # [09:45] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: i only care about seeing the errors :-)
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  140. # [09:45] <MikeSmith> ok fair enough
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  142. # [09:46] <MikeSmith> but the if it doesn't exit non-zero for the error case it makes it pretty hard to do any sane CI automation for it
  143. # [09:47] <zcorpan> true
  144. # [09:47] <MikeSmith> ok
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  146. # [09:47] <MikeSmith> anyway right now I'll deal with getting the error emitted reliably by the html-build build script
  147. # [09:48] <zcorpan> thx
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  151. # [09:51] <MikeSmith> and sorry for the headaches you've had needing to deal with the build hassles. I had wanted to get this stuff working reliably back in September (which would have been before you were back full-time I think) but life got in the way I and I really haven't touched any of this for more than 2 months until I got to your PRs yesterday along with the PR I'd had left hanging open since the end of September
  152. # [09:51] <MikeSmith> anyway, will get it all righted
  153. # [09:56] <zcorpan> no worries, html-build has worked fine for me, really
  154. # [09:57] <zcorpan> my wattsi build problems were apple's fault
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  157. # [10:08] <zcorpan> Domenic: can we adopt the "snapshot as of this commit" thing in streams for all our specs? (then we can also make "file an issue" link use the snapshot URL, and maybe clicking a <dfn> can include a stable link)
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  164. # [10:35] <zcorpan> nice https://drafts.csswg.org/indexes/#properties
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  170. # [11:04] <MikeSmith> very cool
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  179. # [11:24] <annevk> zcorpan: an Array is not live
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  181. # [11:28] <MikeSmith> FYI for folks who care about e-mail archives
  182. # [11:28] <MikeSmith> https://github.com/w3c/mailing-list-archives
  183. # [11:28] <MikeSmith> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/spec-prod/2015OctDec/0089.html
  184. # [11:28] <Ms2ger> Hey, anyone who knows things about canvas2d around?
  185. # [11:28] <MikeSmith> "We are planning to modernize the markup and style of our mailinglist archives, to improve readability and usability and todisplay better on a wider variety of devices."
  186. # [11:29] <MikeSmith> Ms2ger: Philip` maybe
  187. # [11:29] <Ms2ger> Ha
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  193. # [11:54] <annevk> Can anyone just host files in your repository? https://github.com/whatwg/notifications/issues/57#issuecomment-165652739
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  241. # [15:56] <smaug____> hayato: dglazkov: does blink already have deprecation warnings for the old shadow dom API?
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  248. # [16:10] <rits> i am compiling watttsi, but during the build getting this error http://pastebin.com/fFKKAqdb
  249. # [16:13] <gsnedders> rits: what version of fps do you have?
  250. # [16:13] <gsnedders> *fpc
  251. # [16:13] <gsnedders> because that looks like it's confused between 3.0.0 and 2.6.2 for some reason?
  252. # [16:13] <rits> gsnedders: 3.0.0
  253. # [16:14] <rits> gsnedders: yes, the error seems relate to that but i have installed 3.0.0
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  259. # [16:19] <gsnedders> rits: can you try pastebinning bash -x ./build.sh (or whatver shell)
  260. # [16:20] <rits> gsnedders: yes
  261. # [16:21] * gsnedders doesn't really know /that/ much about fpc
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  263. # [16:21] <rits> gsnedders: this one is a ./build.sh result only http://pastebin.com/fFKKAqdb
  264. # [16:22] <rits> me too, there is not much resource on the internet about fpc errors too
  265. # [16:24] <gsnedders> As far as I can see, there's nothing passing in any -FM anywhere, so it's coming from within fpc… :\
  266. # [16:24] <gsnedders> I presume there's some FreePascal IRC channel, maybe it'd be worthwhile asking there?
  267. # [16:25] <gsnedders> Unless MikeSmith can help? (He runs the AWS instance hosting it I think?)
  268. # [16:27] <rits> gsnedders: yes, i will try to asking on any FreePascal channel, otherwise will comment there on the issue, might be whenever they are around, will solve it then
  269. # [16:31] <ondras> hmh
  270. # [16:31] <ondras> flexbox + overflow
  271. # [16:31] <ondras> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14962468/flexbox-and-vertical-scroll-in-a-full-height-app-using-newer-flexbox-api
  272. # [16:31] <ondras> can someone please explain *why* this works?
  273. # [16:32] <ondras> (i.e. setting arbitrary height on a "flex:1 1 auto" element)
  274. # [16:33] <Domenic> Fascinating, bfcache in blink? https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=511340
  275. # [16:33] <Domenic> botie: tell zcorpan that generalizing stream's snapshot system has been a TODO of mine for a while, and I would welcome some help...
  276. # [16:33] <botie> will do
  277. # [16:38] <gsnedders> rits: let us know what the solution is!
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  327. # [18:50] <dglazkov> smaug____: not yet
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  336. # [19:00] <smaug____> dglazkov: would be perhaps good, so that web devs don't start to rely more and more on deprecated API
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  338. # [19:03] <botie> zcorpan, at 2015-12-18 15:33 UTC, Domenic said: generalizing stream's snapshot system has been a TODO of mine for a while, and I would welcome some help...
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  359. # [20:13] <TabAtkins> annevk: I... guess? I'd just delete the thread.
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  361. # [20:29] <smaug____> hmm, 491 tabs. time to close some of them
  362. # [20:32] <TabAtkins> ondras: That's an intentional and encouraged use of flexbox. The flex container is set to the full height of the page, and the article is the only part that can grow or shrink.
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