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  38. # [03:20] <frewsxcv> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/#htmldocument
  39. # [03:21] <frewsxcv> should that be part of the IDL spec? or is it not an IDL property?
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  65. # [05:29] <Domenic> frewsxcv: it is not an IDL property. IDL properties can only be getters.
  66. # [05:30] <frewsxcv> roger
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  134. # [10:36] <annevk> rbyers: thanks for raising that, updated the README to point out the tests
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  142. # [11:09] <nox> Domenic: It could be [Alias=HTMLDocument] interface Document { … }.
  143. # [11:09] <nox> Extending https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/WebIDL_bindings#Alias to interfaces.
  144. # [11:16] <annevk> Oh, [Alias] would be great to have for some features, though perhaps a bit overkill
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  148. # [11:41] <Ms2ger> nox, that's a completely different alias, though
  149. # [11:42] <nox> Ms2ger: Oh? So Document shouldn't be equal to HTMLDocument?
  150. # [11:42] <nox> annevk: Where?
  151. # [11:42] <Ms2ger> nox, I mean, [Alias] in Gecko webidl is a perf optimization
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  153. # [11:43] <nox> Ms2ger: Oh yeah I know.
  154. # [11:43] <nox> Ms2ger: Where is it used btw? Invisible stuff?
  155. # [11:43] <Ms2ger> nox, it's an extension of [Constant] and [Pure]
  156. # [11:44] <nox> Weird.
  157. # [11:47] <nox> Ms2ger: Do you have an example?
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  159. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Wait
  160. # [11:49] <Ms2ger> Ignore everything I just said
  161. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> What I was talking about was [Affects]
  162. # [11:50] <Ms2ger> [Alias] is what you thought it was
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  165. # [12:01] <annevk> nox: e.g. matches / webkitMatchesSelector
  166. # [12:02] <annevk> nox: or the various names of inputEncoding
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  171. # [12:21] <jochen__> is there somewhere a spec that talks about what line number to use for inline scripts?
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  173. # [12:26] <Ms2ger> HTML probably hand-waves a bit
  174. # [12:27] <Ms2ger> <script>
  175. # [12:27] <Ms2ger> var dcl = false;
  176. # [12:27] <Ms2ger> document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded", function(e) { dcl = true; });
  177. # [12:27] <Ms2ger> </script>
  178. # [12:27] <Ms2ger> <script defer>setTimeout(function() { w(dcl) }, 0);</script>
  179. # [12:27] <Ms2ger> Anyone have an opinion on what that logs?
  180. # [12:29] <Ms2ger> Domenic, ^
  181. # [12:30] <Ms2ger> (I *think* it's well-defined)
  182. # [12:31] <nox> annevk: Is matches supposed to be equal to webkitMatchesSelector?
  183. # [12:31] <nox> I guess it would make sense in fact.
  184. # [12:32] <Ms2ger> Yep
  185. # [12:33] <nox> LGTM? :P
  186. # [12:33] <nox> Ms2ger: Try to ping me a bit this weekend.
  187. # [12:33] <nox> I want to make LegacyUnenumerable and Alias reality.
  188. # [12:33] <Ms2ger> I try to avoid getting on IRC on my days off
  189. # [12:33] <nox> Oh right.
  190. # [12:33] <nox> Well then, chide me on Monday if I did nothing. :)
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  192. # [12:35] <annevk> Oh I can help out with the Monday thing
  193. # [12:35] <annevk> That'll be fun
  194. # [12:35] <nox> annevk: Ah ah. :)
  195. # [12:36] <Ms2ger> Anyone know where defer scripts are executed in Chrome?
  196. # [12:45] <Ms2ger> annevk, you got IE on hand?
  197. # [12:46] <annevk> Ms2ger: only 11
  198. # [12:46] <Ms2ger> I'll take it :)
  199. # [12:46] <Ms2ger> http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/3830
  200. # [12:47] <annevk> Ms2ger: defer false; defer sT: true; defer sT*2: true
  201. # [12:47] <Ms2ger> Thanks
  202. # [12:47] <Ms2ger> That matches Chrome, but not Gecko or the spec (as I read it)
  203. # [12:55] <Ms2ger> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2479
  204. # [13:07] <zcorpan> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29378 intredasting. wonder if webkit/blink have always used floats for width/height. (sci-not seems not supported though)
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  222. # [14:34] <Domenic> Ms2ger: I am pretty sure the spec ignores defer for inline scripts
  223. # [14:34] <Ms2ger> Domenic, you make a good point
  224. # [14:35] <Ms2ger> At least I have the consolation that zcorpan missed that too :)
  225. # [14:35] <zcorpan> hah
  226. # [14:36] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: follow-up PR? :-)
  227. # [14:36] <Ms2ger> Results don't change
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  230. # [14:38] <Ms2ger> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/2480
  231. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> frivoal, so is it your birthday?
  232. # [14:39] <frivoal> Ms2ger: Yes indeed.
  233. # [14:39] <Ms2ger> Have a happy one, then :)
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  243. # [15:30] <JakeA> Domenic: If I create a readable stream, pull is called straight away. Is this intentional?
  244. # [15:30] <JakeA> If so, https://streams.spec.whatwg.org/#rs-constructor seems misleading
  245. # [15:31] <Domenic> JakeA: step 12.a.ii?
  246. # [15:31] <zcorpan> blink and webkit apparently have a fancy <area shape> missing value default/invalid value default that depends on how many numbers are present in coords
  247. # [15:32] <Domenic> JakeA: as long as current queue size < high water mark it will try to pull to fill the queue
  248. # [15:32] <JakeA> Domenic: ahh ok, so "[pull] is called when the stream’s internal queue of chunks is depleted, and the consumer has signaled that they wish to consume more data" is misleading
  249. # [15:32] <Domenic> Ah I see
  250. # [15:32] <Domenic> "depleted" is not correct, yeah, thanks. File an issue?
  251. # [15:32] <JakeA> Shall do
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  253. # [15:32] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, I wonder who came up with that
  254. # [15:33] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, I don't think Gecko has that, or anyone ever asked for it
  255. # [15:33] <zcorpan> Ms2ger: right gecko defaults to rect like the spec
  256. # [15:34] <Ms2ger> I think it used to be that Gecko did nothing when the attribute was missingf
  257. # [15:35] <Ms2ger> Can't find a bug now, though
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  260. # [15:39] <Ms2ger> zcorpan, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290397
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  263. # [15:48] <zcorpan> in webdevdata all the ones that have a missing/invalid shape use 4 values in coords. (but some do have missing shape and seem to expect a rect)
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  280. # [17:17] <Ms2ger> annevk, so what's the story for direct cross-spec links in html?
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  284. # [17:46] <annevk> Ms2ger: how or why?
  285. # [17:47] <Ms2ger> annevk, they exist for some specs but not others, or did I misremember that?
  286. # [17:49] <annevk> Ms2ger: ah yeah, it depends on whether or not the introduction of the term has a data-x-href attribute
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  288. # [17:49] <Ms2ger> Aha
  289. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> Are there plans to add those for url/fetch/dom/...?
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  291. # [17:53] <annevk> Ms2ger: there's a soft review requirement that we add it for new terms
  292. # [17:53] <annevk> Ms2ger: we'd accept patches, I think most of Fetch has it already
  293. # [17:53] <Ms2ger> Okay
  294. # [17:53] <Ms2ger> I might do that at some point, then
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  308. # [18:50] <Domenic> I am actually not a huge fan of the cross spec link behavior... I don't like having the singlepage open then suddenly jumping to fetch and going "argh I lost my place now I'll have to reload the singlepage"
  309. # [18:51] <Domenic> But probably best to just stick with what other specs are doing
  310. # [18:51] <Domenic> I think ideally for me though it would jump to the HTML references section, and from _there_ you would get a link to fetch. So two clicks before you lose your singlepage tab.
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  320. # [19:31] <Domenic> annevk: why do yo uthink "Restrictions for contents of script elements" needs to be changed? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with whether ES allows HTML comments or not
  321. # [19:31] <Domenic> Oh, I found the sentence... the very last sentence.
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  324. # [19:46] <yoav> annevk: CORS question. Can a browser reuse resource fetched in different CORS modes from the same origin as the page? e.g. should <img src=foo> and <img src=foo crossorigin> on the same page trigger 2 requests?
  325. # [19:54] <wanderview> yoav: I believe those should be separate requests... they could get different headers/credentials right?
  326. # [19:55] <yoav> not sure, which is why I'm asking :)
  327. # [19:55] <wanderview> not sure about the spec, but implementation stuff leads me to believe these should be treated different for different cors modes
  328. # [19:56] <yoav> wanderview: what's the reason for that? I see the same in Blink, which threw me off
  329. # [19:57] <annevk> yoav: yes they should, very different semantics
  330. # [19:59] <yoav> OK. any pointers where I can read more about it?
  331. # [19:59] <annevk> Fetch
  332. # [20:00] <yoav> ok
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  355. # [21:25] <Domenic> OK examples at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20140634/script-type-module/index.html#dom-script-text I am pretty happy with these
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