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  127. # [07:43] <MikeSmith> philipj: if you're around on IRC now, do you want to chat here about https://github.com/whatwg/wattsi/issues/16 or want me to add a comment to the issue?
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  129. # [07:56] <MikeSmith> philipj: commented at https://github.com/whatwg/wattsi/issues/16#issuecomment-176606629 Just based on code inspection without testing, but I'm pretty sure that's accurate
  130. # [07:57] <philipj> MikeSmith: I am here
  131. # [07:58] <philipj> but your reply is all I need to tinker a bit
  132. # [07:58] <MikeSmith> k
  133. # [07:59] <MikeSmith> if it doesn't work lemme know
  134. # [07:59] <MikeSmith> or if it fails to compile or something
  135. # [07:59] <MikeSmith> Pascal indenting and block syntax is funky but I think you can get the idea from looking at the surrounding code
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  138. # [08:10] <philipj> MikeSmith: Emacs knows how to indent this thing at least
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  140. # [08:12] <MikeSmith> ah good
  141. # [08:12] <MikeSmith> Emacs knows everything :)
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  144. # [08:15] <philipj> MikeSmith: got a crash simply by adding Warn('Unused reference '), can one get a symbolized backtrace?
  145. # [08:15] * philipj finds MODE=DEBUG
  146. # [08:15] <MikeSmith> well that's weird
  147. # [08:16] <MikeSmith> yeah would try that first
  148. # [08:17] <philipj> well, merely trying to build with DEBUG or FAST-DEBUG with no changes crashes with EIntOverflow
  149. # [08:18] <philipj> and no usable stack or anything
  150. # [08:18] <philipj> maybe this sucks less on linux
  151. # [08:19] <philipj> MikeSmith: do you also get a million build warnings?
  152. # [08:20] <MikeSmith> yes, sorry, but I have a fix for that in another pending PR
  153. # [08:20] <MikeSmith> https://github.com/whatwg/wattsi/pull/11
  154. # [08:21] <philipj> so the actual crash I've added (back to MODE=RELEASE) is EAccessViolation exception: Access violation
  155. # [08:21] <philipj> I guess that's a segfault?
  156. # [08:21] <MikeSmith> I guess it must be yeah
  157. # [08:22] <MikeSmith> it's never segfaulted on me yet
  158. # [08:23] <MikeSmith> I guess I should just try this myself in my environment and see what happens
  159. # [08:26] <philipj> MikeSmith: https://github.com/whatwg/wattsi/pull/17 is what I did
  160. # [08:27] <MikeSmith> k, will pull that branch and try
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  162. # [08:44] <MikeSmith> philipj: no segfault for me in my environment
  163. # [08:45] <MikeSmith> and I get a (long) list of unused references emitted as expected
  164. # [08:47] <philipj> mkwst: did you see https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/574
  165. # [08:48] <philipj> MikeSmith: well that sucks, then I'll have to debug it :/
  166. # [08:48] <mkwst> If it happened in the last two weeks, you can safely assume I haven't seen it.
  167. # [08:48] <philipj> but not today, for sure
  168. # [08:48] <mkwst> So buried.
  169. # [08:48] <mkwst> Will look in a minute.
  170. # [08:48] <philipj> mkwst: not critical, just a typo in CSP integration and a question for you
  171. # [08:49] <philipj> MikeSmith: what are the last few refernces listen for HTML (not DEV) for you?
  172. # [08:49] <philipj> not sure if mine crahes before or after the last one
  173. # [08:50] <MikeSmith> mkwst: https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/523 is also waiting on you but not in any way urgent so feel free to keep it on the back burner
  174. # [08:50] <MikeSmith> philipj: XSLT10 is the last one
  175. # [08:50] <MikeSmith> XHTML1, XHTMLMOD, XPATH10 before it
  176. # [08:51] <philipj> MikeSmith: interesting, the last I see is XHTMLMOD
  177. # [08:51] <philipj> so close :)
  178. # [08:51] <MikeSmith> oops
  179. # [08:52] <MikeSmith> sorry I misunderstood your question
  180. # [08:52] <MikeSmith> flip that around
  181. # [08:52] <MikeSmith> XHTMLMOD is the last I see for HTML (not DEV)
  182. # [08:52] <MikeSmith> those are what I see for DEV
  183. # [08:52] <philipj> ok...
  184. # [08:53] <philipj> well then I got them all, then crashed later for some reason
  185. # [08:53] <MikeSmith> interesting
  186. # [08:53] <MikeSmith> so I wonder if that crash might actually be unrelated to your change
  187. # [08:54] <mkwst> philipj: You found a bug. I responded on the patch. Also, hooray for Z's, boo for S's!
  188. # [08:55] <mkwst> MikeSmith: LGTM'd your patch. Thanks for cleaning that up, and apologies for the delay.
  189. # [08:56] <MikeSmith> mkwst: no worries & thanks
  190. # [08:59] <philipj> mkwst: I wouldn't mind switching HTML over to en-US-x-foolip, but so much work
  191. # [08:59] <mkwst> s/ou/o/g
  192. # [08:59] <mkwst> s/s/z/g
  193. # [08:59] <mkwst> done!
  194. # [08:59] <philipj> so simple, I'll do it now!
  195. # [09:00] <philipj> uzer agent muzt
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  197. # [09:00] <philipj> silly americans
  198. # [09:00] <mkwst> zoundz legit.
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  200. # [09:01] <MikeSmith> hah
  201. # [09:02] <MikeSmith> mkwst: hey while you're around, also been wondering if you know whether there are plans to take the Referrer Policy and Suborigins specs to FPWD any time soon
  202. # [09:03] <mkwst> referrer policy is already a WD. poke jochen__ and Emily about its status.
  203. # [09:03] <MikeSmith> k
  204. # [09:03] <mkwst> I think Joel is solidifying the Suborigins proposal in the hopes of having something publishable this quarter.
  205. # [09:03] <MikeSmith> super
  206. # [09:03] <MikeSmith> thanks
  207. # [09:04] <mkwst> np
  208. # [09:07] <jochen__> I want to add Ping-From and Emily wants to brush up the referrer policy header
  209. # [09:07] <jochen__> then we'll do another WD
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  211. # [09:09] <MikeSmith> jochen__: great to hear
  212. # [09:09] <MikeSmith> I see it's been over a year since the previous WD publication (the FPWD)
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  218. # [09:20] <mkwst> If/when we implement automagical WD publication (I think TabAtkins is doing something with zip files? Or maybe everything's already done?), the WD will be just as up to date as the ED, which was last touched in November.
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