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- # [00:08] <Domenic> I think it was before the move to GitHub
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- # [07:28] <@annevk> Hmm, no event discussion ugh
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- # [08:52] <MikeSmith> oh man
- # [08:53] <MikeSmith> I was going to post a link to https://twitter.com/w3c/status/723167929395605509 here for the lulz
- # [08:53] <MikeSmith> but I see Domenic and hsivonen are already way ahead of me and have favorited it
- # [08:53] <@annevk> I saw that, hsivonen make a point of retweeting those events
- # [08:53] <@annevk> mkaes*
- # [08:54] <@annevk> makes*
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- # [10:29] <Ms2ger> annevk, yt?
- # [10:29] <@annevk> Ms2ger: yeah
- # [10:29] <@annevk> Ms2ger: fixing non-dispatchy things
- # [10:30] <Ms2ger> annevk, so origins are shared and mutable now, right?
- # [10:30] <@annevk> Ms2ger: partially mutable, yes
- # [10:30] <@annevk> Ms2ger: and yes, they are shared freely
- # [10:31] <Ms2ger> About that "partially" bit... It can't change opaque <-> tuple, or if it's a tuple, change scheme/host/port, correct?
- # [10:31] <@annevk> Ms2ger: if it's tuple, it can change domain, that's it
- # [10:31] <Ms2ger> Okay, great
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- # [10:32] <@annevk> scheme/host/port never change, opaque never changes, they never change from opaque to tuple
- # [10:32] <Ms2ger> That's what I thought, thanks
- # [10:32] <@annevk> If you file an issue I can add a note underneath that details these invariants
- # [10:32] <@annevk> at some point
- # [10:34] <Ms2ger> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/1093
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- # [11:38] <jochen__> what's the implication of a "relevant mutation" of an img element?
- # [11:38] <@annevk> zcorpan should know
- # [11:40] <@annevk> jochen__: so I think that referrerpolicy should probably be part of relevant mutations
- # [11:40] <zcorpan> jochen__: it runs "update the image data"
- # [11:40] <@annevk> jochen__: it seems that the eventual request happens asynchronously at a later point so can be updated
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- # [11:50] <jochen__> ok
- # [11:50] <jochen__> i guess we should have a test for that
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- # [12:05] <Ms2ger> Yes
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- # [15:52] <@annevk> smaug____: so I guess I'll wait a bit with defining events until that issue is sorted
- # [15:53] <@annevk> smaug____: it's a little annoying feedback from the others is slow since everything else seems to depend on it
- # [15:53] <@annevk> smaug____: e.g., I created a patch for <script> in HTML, but the "load" event it dispatches needs to be scoped...
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- # [15:53] <smaug____> annevk: "that issue"?
- # [15:54] <smaug____> event dispatching in shadow DOM?
- # [15:54] <@annevk> smaug____: https://github.com/w3c/webcomponents/issues/485
- # [15:54] <@annevk> smaug____: yeah
- # [15:57] <smaug____> annevk: I wonder...this iframe + session history.
- # [15:57] <smaug____> if the top level page is navigated back() and then forward(), I assume the iframe in shadow dom will get a new session history
- # [15:58] <smaug____> (bfcache is different since that keeps the iframe alive)
- # [15:59] <@annevk> smaug____: I'm not sure I know enough about it, but that sounds right if there's no cache
- # [16:02] <smaug____> and random note, I _think_ having separate session history for iframes should be easy to implement in Gecko. In xul:browser (which internally uses the same code as html:iframe), we support disablehistory attribute. If not set, session history is created for the contained browsing context (and its descendants)
- # [16:23] <wanderview> JakeA: does chrome return workers as Client objects from matchAll() yet? I wonder if that will confuse sites when we start doing that
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- # [16:31] <@annevk> wanderview: not working on streams just yet?
- # [16:32] <wanderview> annevk: I started this week, but then Matt Gaunt wrote a bug that has been ruining my day for a few days now
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- # [16:37] <gsnedders> Uh, how am I meant to animate a changing SVG path nowadays?
- # [16:38] <gsnedders> I presume with JS?
- # [16:39] <JakeA> wanderview: hm, not sure. It won't show up unless you pass an option to matchAll though right?
- # [16:39] <wanderview> thats true
- # [16:39] <wanderview> ok, that seems safe
- # [16:40] <JakeA> https://slightlyoff.github.io/ServiceWorker/spec/service_worker/#enumdef-clients-clienttype
- # [16:40] <wanderview> yea... I forgot about that
- # [16:40] <wanderview> JakeA: the whole "order by most recently focused" thing might be interesting with workers in the mix
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- # [16:41] <wanderview> JakeA: like workers count as never being focused... so always at the end
- # [16:42] <JakeA> That's probably good enough tbh
- # [16:42] <wanderview> I'll write an issue
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- # [18:22] <wanderview> JakeA: https://github.com/slightlyoff/ServiceWorker/issues/887
- # [18:23] <JakeA> Taa!
- # [18:23] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: The 'd' property is in the process of being specced/implemented, so you can animate that.
- # [18:24] <TabAtkins> Now if you want to animate it *today*, SMIL still works everywhere but IE.
- # [18:24] <TabAtkins> But if you want IE support, yeah, JS is the way to go.
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- # [20:26] <Mek> navigations the settings object for which I care if it is a secure context doesn't exist yet until well after the fetch is complete...
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- # [22:49] <wanderview> Mek: err... why would we allow it on http response headers at all? regardless of how it was initiated it could have be mitm'd, right?
- # [22:50] <Mek> wanderview: the regular registration checks already ensure that various origins match, are all secure origins, http/https only etc.
- # [22:51] <Mek> so I meant http the protocol, not http vs https
- # [22:51] <wanderview> oh, sorry
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