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  56. # [03:20] <smaug____> rbyers: ping
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  69. # [04:18] <rbyers> smaug____: yes?
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  75. # [04:38] <smaug____> rbyers: it was about fullscreen API
  76. # [04:38] <smaug____> I guess xidorn will send some information about the issues in unprefixing
  77. # [04:38] <smaug____> rbyers: are you perhaps aware of the situation at all? and do you know if blink was willing to try to unprefix?
  78. # [04:39] <smaug____> (it would help a ton if most of the browser vendors unprefixed around the same time)
  79. # [04:40] <rbyers> We want to yes, but there are some nasty problems to fix first. It's on our layout team's list but may not happen anytime soon unfortunately.
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  81. # [04:40] <rbyers> I'm trying to see if I can get it funded from just the interoperability perspective too, so I'm hopeful.
  82. # [04:40] <rbyers> Edge also wants us to do it...
  83. # [04:45] <smaug____> rbyers: yes, this is related to the Edge stuff
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  86. # [04:49] <smaug____> annevk: has there been more talk about hiding APIs in certain contexts
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  134. # [07:57] <@annevk> smaug____: only secure contexts
  135. # [07:57] <@annevk> smaug____: seems like that is still the plan
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  137. # [08:00] <smaug____> annevk: this came up in a discussion about Presentation API which should be somehow disabled (not defined how in the spec) in sandboxed iframes by default
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  139. # [08:01] <smaug____> and the question was whether to hide the API or make getters to return null and some ctors to throw
  140. # [08:02] <smaug____> (restarting)
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  144. # [08:09] <@annevk> smaug____: hmm
  145. # [08:09] <@annevk> smaug____: typically we use sandboxing for that
  146. # [08:09] <smaug____> for what?
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  148. # [08:09] <@annevk> smaug____: or what fullscreen uses
  149. # [08:10] <@annevk> smaug____: disabling things in certain browsing contexts
  150. # [08:10] <smaug____> annevk: sure, that is what Presentation API does
  151. # [08:10] <smaug____> the question is how to disable features
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  153. # [08:10] <@annevk> smaug____: throw I suppose
  154. # [08:11] <smaug____> like, hiding the API in the sandboxed iframe or making the getters return null or throwing or making methods no-ops or what
  155. # [08:11] <smaug____> so, no hiding in this case I guess
  156. # [08:11] <smaug____> yeah, for now the plan is to make the getter return null and a ctor to throw
  157. # [08:11] <@annevk> smaug____: yeah, seems like something we might provide optin for too
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  200. # [10:18] <MikeSmith> the editors of the Payment Request API have been recently getting issues resolved that were blocking implementors
  201. # [10:19] <MikeSmith> so the spec is moving along well and I encourage anybody and everybody here to please scrutinize it
  202. # [10:19] <MikeSmith> https://w3c.github.io/browser-payment-api/specs/paymentrequest.html
  203. # [10:20] <MikeSmith> and if you find problems, please file issues https://github.com/w3c/browser-payment-api/issues
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  206. # [10:23] <@annevk> Anyone have 5min to review a blog post for me?
  207. # [10:24] <MikeSmith> annevk: I can
  208. # [10:25] <MikeSmith> as long as it’s not something too esoteric
  209. # [10:25] <@annevk> maybe a little bit esoteric
  210. # [10:25] <@annevk> definitely considering the entire world population
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  212. # [10:31] <MikeSmith> heh, well by the definition everything we do here is very esoteric
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  282. # [14:21] <@annevk> So components for HTML has been dabbled around for nearly two decades
  283. # [14:23] <MikeSmith> annevk: yeah?
  284. # [14:24] <@annevk> MikeSmith: https://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-HTMLComponents is from 98
  285. # [14:24] <@annevk> MikeSmith: I'm feeling inspired to write another short blog post, since I can't quite concentrate on editing standards today
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  287. # [14:29] <MikeSmith> if you write it I will be happy to review it
  288. # [14:34] <MikeSmith> annevk: I wonder if https://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-HTMLComponents was based on the IE “Behaviors” thing, or whether it predates that
  289. # [14:37] * MikeSmith finds https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms532146(v=vs.85).aspx
  290. # [14:37] <MikeSmith> “Using HTML Components to Implement DHTML Behaviors in Script”
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  304. # [15:46] <MikeSmith> .win 33
  305. # [15:46] <MikeSmith> oofs
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  307. # [15:49] <@annevk> So if I want a better mobile experience for my site, I need to use <meta content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, shrink-to-fit=no" name=viewport> to this day?
  308. # [15:49] <@annevk> This is so sad
  309. # [15:50] <Ms2ger> Very
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  311. # [15:54] <MikeSmith> I think it is not just “to this day” but instead we are now stuck with it forever
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  313. # [15:56] <caitp> surely there's a betterw ay
  314. # [15:59] <MikeSmith> there was before Apple unilaterally minted that
  315. # [15:59] <MikeSmith> but too late now
  316. # [16:01] <@annevk> Also, designing for mobile is hard, I kinda want the <h1> to become part of the <nav> but ...
  317. # [16:01] <@annevk> I guess this is what you deserve when you've been neglecting CSS for a while
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  323. # [16:22] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: https://github.com/validator/validator/pull/286
  324. # [16:23] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: yup, thanks, will try to get that changed this weekend
  325. # [16:24] <zcorpan> MikeSmith: cool, no rush, just thought i'd drop it here in case you were flooded with github notifications :-)
  326. # [16:27] <MikeSmith> well I am always flooded with github notifications so yeah I appreciate it
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  372. # [16:59] <wanderview> Domenic: would you be ok if I changed some "let" variables in for of loops to "var"s in the stream tests? its not actually something that works well in firefox now and prevents me from really running the tests to work on streams
  373. # [16:59] <wanderview> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1268812
  374. # [16:59] <wanderview> obviously we need to fix that, but it seems its not the focus of these tests
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  377. # [17:08] <Ms2ger> wanderview, since they're in wpt now, I'm going to claim I can r+ that, so go for it :)
  378. # [17:09] <wanderview> Ms2ger: I'm going to wait a bit since its not blocking me quite yet... but will probably do it in next couple weeks
  379. # [17:09] <wanderview> just wanted to get Domenic's opinion since its not a pressing issue yet
  380. # [17:09] <wanderview> thats assuming people don't bring me more service worker bustage :-(
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  401. # [18:11] <Domenic> wanderview: sure, I guess. Sad that even in nightly you guys are behind on fairly basic ES6 stuff... Just be sure it doesn't change the semantics, as changing let to var often does, especially in loops with closures.
  402. # [18:11] <Ms2ger> Turns out `let` is hard
  403. # [18:12] <Ms2ger> Even harder if you had it before it was cool, and then it changed
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  406. # [18:16] <@annevk> So I tried to use this name=viewport thing and added a stylesheet, but it still looks bogus in Safari
  407. # [18:17] <Domenic> annevk: cross origin objects blog post!
  408. # [18:17] <@annevk> yeah should do that
  409. # [18:17] <Domenic> let's keep a good cadence on blog.whatwg.org
  410. # [18:17] <@annevk> Desktop Safari is fine though meeh
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  414. # [18:28] <caitp> in your view, 10 years from now, is web development going to be more streamlined than it is now
  415. # [18:28] <caitp> or is it going to be even more of a mess
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  417. # [18:30] <@annevk> Firefox for iOS renders something I expect, Safari for iOS does not...
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  420. # [18:33] <MikeSmith> botie, inform zcorpan label[form] change pushed to https://checker.html5.org/ with some additional fixups https://github.com/validator/validator/commit/4bdaa25fb95ed23b2fbcf97b79207db7afbc6303
  421. # [18:33] <nox> annevk: That sounds wonderful.
  422. # [18:34] <@annevk> nox: you'd think that after 9 years of iPhone this would be easy
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  424. # [18:34] <nox> Especially with them using the same engine, right?
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  426. # [18:35] <@annevk> nox: I guess WebView is a bit different from Safari here
  427. # [18:36] <@annevk> UIWebView?
  428. # [18:36] <@annevk> Also, there's a weird horizontal scrollbar
  429. # [18:38] <caitp> you know if you asked about it on twitter someone would tell you in a short timespan exactly how to fix it
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  431. # [18:39] <caitp> ...maybe
  432. # [18:40] <@annevk> Yeah, last resort
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  434. # [18:44] <@annevk> Okay, so Safari is affected by overflow somehow
  435. # [18:44] <@annevk> If you have overflow, it'll rescale the page
  436. # [18:44] <@annevk> UIWebView does not do this
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  439. # [18:45] <MikeSmith> botie, inform zcorpan label[form] change pushed to https://checker.html5.org/ with some additional fixups https://github.com/validator/validator/commit/4bdaa25fb95ed23b2fbcf97b79207db7afbc6303
  440. # [18:45] <botie> will do
  441. # [18:48] <@annevk> caitp: https://twitter.com/annevk/status/726089939725766656 answer away 😃
  442. # [18:49] <caitp> I said someone would, I didn't say I had a clue about it :x
  443. # [18:50] <@annevk> caitp: as for your question earlier, I have no idea
  444. # [18:50] <@annevk> caitp: I tend to think it gets better over time, but the transitional period of new technology is always painful
  445. # [18:51] <Domenic> annevk: there's some flag for this, hold on...
  446. # [18:52] <Domenic> annevk: <meta content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, shrink-to-fit=no" name="viewport">
  447. # [18:52] <Domenic> shrink-to-fit=no being the key I think
  448. # [18:52] <@annevk> Domenic: my site uses that
  449. # [18:55] <@annevk> Oooh maybe something got incorrectly cached, it seems to work now
  450. # [18:58] <caitp> it seems like the transitional period for new tech never really ends, though
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  452. # [19:00] <@annevk> Maybe, but there's lots of features that are more than usable without requiring hacks
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  454. # [19:13] <Domenic> let's see how it looks on Firefox Android
  455. # [19:13] <Domenic> Isn't it time to update the "URLs suck" though
  456. # [19:13] <Domenic> hmm ok kind of works on mobile
  457. # [19:14] <Domenic> the sidebar should really be hidden ideally
  458. # [19:14] <Domenic> or turned into a footer
  459. # [19:14] <Domenic> but, write a cross origin objects blog post instead of tweaking your CSS :P
  460. # [19:15] <Domenic> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hsMjGda9/Screenshot_20160429-131111.png
  461. # [19:16] <Domenic> woah it looks great on chrome mobile
  462. # [19:17] <Domenic> except if you scroll left there's a lot of purple for no clear reason
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  464. # [19:31] <@annevk> Domenic: isn't the sidebar hidden on mobile?
  465. # [19:31] <Domenic> annevk: not in Firefox, yes in Chrome
  466. # [19:31] <Domenic> probably worth filing a bug on Firefox
  467. # [19:31] <@annevk> Domenic: I wonder why all these browsers work differently
  468. # [19:31] <@annevk> Domenic: the lots of purple is because of an overflowing <pre>
  469. # [19:32] <@annevk> Maybe Firefox has the CSS cached?
  470. # [19:32] <wanderview> Domenic: the sidebar on anne's site is hidden on my firefox for android...
  471. # [19:32] <Domenic> Hmmmm
  472. # [19:33] <Domenic> Is there a force reload on mobile FF?
  473. # [19:33] <Domenic> Ah yep!
  474. # [19:33] <Domenic> Good now
  475. # [19:33] <Domenic> You just have to actually reload instead of just pressing enter on the URL bar again
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  477. # [19:34] <@annevk> Thanks for checking on Android 😃
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  481. # [19:39] <botie> zcorpan, at 2016-04-29 16:41 UTC, MikeSmith said: label[form] change pushed to https://checker.html5.org/ with some additional fixups https://github.com/validator/validator/commit/4bdaa25fb95ed23b2fbcf97b79207db7afbc6303
  482. # [19:39] <MikeSmith> zcorpan: thanks for the PR!
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