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1. # Session Start: Tue Apr 10 00:00:00 2012
2. # Session Ident: #developers
3. # [00:00] <firebot> displayed. | Test timed out; r=rcampbell
4. # [00:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/cafe030aca8a - Girish Sharma - Bug 739192 - Source Editor should toggle comment on line or selection with one key binding; r=msucan
5. # [00:00] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c0946061c57f - Girish Sharma - Bug 729960 - Source Editor: add shortcuts to quickly jump to the code block start and end; r=msucan
6. # [00:00] <sheppy> Several of those need dev-doc-needed added. :)
7. # [00:01] <sheppy> So I can update the user guides for them on MDN.
8. # [00:01] <@khuey> wouldn't that be user-doc-needed?
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10. # [00:02] <sheppy> Not in This case.
11. # [00:02] <sheppy> Since its docs for developer doc site.
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16. # [00:03] <sheppy> Stuff about UX changes for the source editor will affect dev tools docs.
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20. # [00:06] <biesi> GPHemsley, oh great. it comes from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=19451&action=edit
21. # [00:07] <gavin> khuey: no -j worked :/
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23. # [00:08] <@khuey> gavin: yeah, that I expected
24. # [00:08] <@khuey> gavin: padenot is trying a better fix
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27. # [00:09] <stu> Anyone know anything about the painting code in firefox? Wondering why the info from the original paintstruct is not used by default to determine the paint region. I assume there is a good reason but I'm curious what it is..
28. # [00:09] <philor> yay!
29. # [00:09] <stu> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/windows/nsWindowGfx.cpp#178http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/windows/nsWindowGfx.cpp#178http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/windows/nsWindowGfx.cpp#178http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/widget/windows/nsWindowGfx.cpp#178http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/so
30. # [00:10] <gavin> stu: ask #gfx?
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32. # [00:10] <stu> thanks..
33. # [00:10] <gavin> without the question mark :)
34. # [00:11] <stu> oh.. it was quiet in there :)
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38. # [00:12] <sheppy> Heh
39. # [00:12] <@khuey> looks like zimbra died
40. # [00:12] <bkero> whoo esx
41. # [00:13] <sheppy> <tear location=cheek count=1>
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43. # [00:14] <@khuey> boo xml
44. # [00:14] <sheppy> Fits with the somber mood.
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52. # [00:18] <Callek> khuey: zimbra still working for me
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54. # [00:18] <Callek> fwiw
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56. # [00:18] <@khuey> Callek: interesting
57. # [00:18] <@khuey> Callek: I'm getting 502 bad gateway
58. # [00:19] <Callek> khuey: of course, yea I am already logged in
59. # [00:19] <Callek> let me try a few things and I'll get right back to you
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62. # [00:19] <Callek> khuey: yea logging in works fine for me right now
63. # [00:19] <@khuey> interesting
64. # [00:19] <Callek> khuey: 302: #it
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71. # [00:22] <@khuey> Callek: looks like you're the only one it works for :-P
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84. # [00:28] <biesi> dammit
85. # [00:28] <biesi> timeless, ping\
86. # [00:28] <cpearce> Does the flash plugin do its network IO through Necko APIs, or does it ship its own network stack. i.e. does the data it downloads get cached in the Necko network cache?
87. # [00:28] <biesi> cpearce, mostly uses necko, afaik
88. # [00:29] <cpearce> biesi: thanks!
89. # [00:30] <biesi> timeless, hmm nvm
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91. # [00:30] <biesi> .......oh fuck this shit
92. # [00:30] <biesi> there used to be an nsHTTPHandler.cpp
93. # [00:30] <biesi> now there's an nsHttpHandler.cpp
94. # [00:31] <biesi> and I've been wondering why file contents didn't seem to match up\
95. # [00:33] <timeless> pong?
96. # [00:33] <timeless> cute
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98. # [00:34] <timeless> biesi: there may have been, but um
99. # [00:34] * timeless isn't sure when
100. # [00:35] <timeless> google isn't finding it..
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102. # [00:36] <timeless> it's sad, because i'm pretty sure i remember an nsHTTPHandler, but google and bonsai aren't being very helpful
103. # [00:36] <biesi> http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&root=/cvsroot&subdir=mozilla/netwerk/protocol/http/src&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&file=nsHttpHandler.cpp&rev2=1.81&rev1=1.80
104. # [00:36] <biesi> http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/netwerk/protocol/http/src/nsHTTPHandler.cpp&rev=HEAD&root=/cvsroot
105. # [00:37] <biesi> fix up link as appropriate
106. # [00:37] <timeless> right, 2001
107. # [00:37] <@dbaron> biesi, I thought the renam matched when darin rewrote the whole thing?
108. # [00:37] * timeless decided not to go that far back
109. # [00:37] <timeless> dbaron: that's correct
110. # [00:37] <biesi> dbaron, probably
111. # [00:37] <timeless> 1.170 darin%netscape.com 2001-05-11 14:00 Http branch landing: removing old files (bug 76866) r=gagan,sr=dougt,a=chofmann
112. # [00:38] <timeless> sorry, i stopped spelunking when i got to 2001 and decided i'd looked far enough back, that was stupid of me :)
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115. # [00:38] <biesi> yes, yes it was ;)
116. # [00:38] <timeless> 0.6 is the last gecko on mxr-test that has it
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121. # [00:40] <timeless> biesi: in theory, http://mxr-test.mozilla.org/mozilla0.6/diff?file=/netwerk/protocol/http/src/nsHTTPHandler.cpp&file2=/netwerk/protocol/http/src/nsHttpHandler.cpp&diffvar=mozilla-central should do the right thing
122. # [00:40] <timeless> unfortunately it doesn't, i'm sorry
123. # [00:40] <biesi> timeless, that's ok, that's not really what I wanted
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125. # [00:40] <biesi> was looking where a specific change got introduced
126. # [00:40] <biesi> but I was looking at the wrong (older) file
127. # [00:40] <biesi> wasn't useful
128. # [00:40] <timeless> the odds of that being particularly helpful aren't very high anyway
129. # [00:40] <biesi> actually
130. # [00:41] <biesi> it was
131. # [00:41] <timeless> that=my link which didn't work
132. # [00:41] <biesi> ahahahahaha
133. # [00:41] <biesi> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191946#c19
134. # [00:41] <biesi> all this work, to track down something I reviewed myself
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136. # [00:41] <timeless> heh
137. # [00:41] <timeless> you can be forgiven, it was 9 years ago
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139. # [00:42] * timeless just finished teaching Python about .qm files
140. # [00:43] <Bas> taras: You got the info you needed? I have no idea about anything we could've -changed- that would affect this.
141. # [00:43] <Bas> But it's hard to be sure, the comments on the bug suggest it's not GFX.
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143. # [00:44] <taras> Bas: yeah seems like more cache junk :(
144. # [00:44] <taras> or :)
145. # [00:44] <taras> for you
146. # [00:44] <Bas> taras: Heh, well, no jank makes me happy! :P
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148. # [00:45] <timeless> biesi: but.. how did you start with the old filename? did you just go straight to bonsai/rview?
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151. # [00:45] <biesi> timeless, no, I first tracked down where this function was originally added
152. # [00:45] <timeless> oh
153. # [00:45] <biesi> so I was looking at all checkins on darin's rewrite branch
154. # [00:45] <biesi> and found the old filename that way
155. # [00:45] <timeless> right
156. # [00:45] <biesi> and later on I didn't realize that the files differed just in case
157. # [00:45] <timeless> while that would work
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159. # [00:46] <timeless> it's probably not a great approach
160. # [00:46] <biesi> what would you have done?
161. # [00:46] <timeless> it relies on committers to be nice in their eol changesets
162. # [00:46] <biesi> oh, no it doesn't
163. # [00:46] <biesi> hm, well
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165. # [00:46] <biesi> ok I found the branch name via bugzilla
166. # [00:47] <timeless> i tend to bisect backwards
167. # [00:47] <timeless> it doesn't actually work much better
168. # [00:47] <timeless> but there's a slightly better chance of a new file including a reference to the old file path
169. # [00:47] <timeless> than the killing reference telling you anything about where code went
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171. # [00:48] <timeless> (in this case, there's much more data to bisect going backwards, but hey, bisecting doesn't really care too much)
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178. # [00:54] <JesperHansen> Has anything for a:visited changed recently? the visited links changes back to being unvisited if I reload the page!
179. # [00:54] <JesperHansen> Imagine visiting reddit and having no idea what you've already read
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182. # [00:55] <@khuey> its the same stuff every few days anyways :-P
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186. # [00:55] <jhammel> khuey++
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192. # [01:00] <timeless> khuey++
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197. # [01:04] <taras> ttaubert: on my computer delayCapture runs 9 times
198. # [01:04] <taras> without even switching tabs
199. # [01:04] <taras> on startup
200. # [01:04] <@dbaron> JesperHansen, did reddit insert something in the links that changes each time you load the page?
201. # [01:04] <gavin> do you have 9 tabs?
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203. # [01:08] <taras> gavin: yeah about that
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205. # [01:09] <taras> but i thought this was only running when a tab is selected
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207. # [01:10] <sheeri-iphone> clee: Im back, ready for me? Where do you sit?
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210. # [01:12] <ttaubert> taras: it's captured when content in a tab finished loading. and when a tab is selected.
211. # [01:13] <taras> ttaubert: lets not do that :)
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214. # [01:15] <ttaubert> taras: if you know a better "heuristic" for when to take screenshots tell me :)
215. # [01:15] <taras> ttaubert:when the page is looked at
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217. # [01:15] <taras> should be the floor for this
218. # [01:15] <taras> given how expensive taking screenshots is
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220. # [01:16] <taras> it's frustrating that the screenshot caputure is expensive at all
221. # [01:17] <taras> it should be possible to do it lazily while double-buffering/etc
222. # [01:17] <taras> :(
223. # [01:17] <ttaubert> yeah, we should really fix drawWindow()
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225. # [01:18] <taras> ttaubert: i presume you already noticed 743069
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227. # [01:18] <ttaubert> but in the meantime, you'd propose using onTabSelect and throttling?
228. # [01:18] <taras> and how drawWindow is murdering tab switch speed
229. # [01:18] <taras> ttaubert: yes
230. # [01:18] <NeilAway> biesi: it's even worse when it's a regression ;-)
231. # [01:18] <ttaubert> but we're calling drawWindow() not in the onTabSelect handler
232. # [01:18] <ttaubert> should be 2s afterwards
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235. # [01:20] <taras> ttaubert: it's not
236. # [01:21] <padenot> khuey: by the way, it builds with the backout
237. # [01:21] <taras> ttaubert: 2s would still be a problem for that usecase
238. # [01:23] <taras> ttaubert: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5961467/moz/_delayedCapture.PNG
239. # [01:23] <taras> note the timestamps
240. # [01:24] <@khuey> padenot: cool
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245. # [01:29] <njn> if I accidentally "hg pull -u" when I have an mq patch stack applied, instead of "hg pull --rebase", is there a way to undo the screw-up?
246. # [01:29] <@khuey> hg qpop -a
247. # [01:29] <@khuey> hg update -C
248. # [01:29] <@khuey> hg qpush mystack
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258. # [01:35] <njn> khuey: what is "mystack"?
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261. # [01:37] <cpearce> anyone else keep getting a build error in idl-parser/header.py when doing a clobber build on Windows? The error for me is on js/xpconnect/tests/idl/xpctest_attributes.idl and I keep getting it consistently. Really annoying...
262. # [01:37] <cpearce> deleting objdir doesn't seem to help...
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264. # [01:38] <taras> yeah i saw that
265. # [01:38] <taras> running pymake again fixed it for me
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267. # [01:39] <cpearce> yeah, that's a real pain.
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272. # [01:42] <@khuey> njn: whatever the deepest patch you want pushed is
273. # [01:42] <@khuey> cpearce: yeah, I'll fix it shortly
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275. # [01:42] <cpearce> khuey: thanks, much appreciated.
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279. # [01:43] <sheeri-iphone> Anyone know where clee sits? He quit irc and I need stuff from him today.
280. # [01:44] <sheeri-iphone> (and in leaving in 20 mins)
281. # [01:44] <sheeri-iphone> Er, I'm leaving.
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284. # [01:45] <stuart> call him?
285. # [01:45] <dholbert> sheeri-iphone, I think he sits near Asa (?)
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288. # [01:45] <dholbert> sheeri-iphone, near the "elbow" of the building
289. # [01:45] <Asa> clee sits opposite my desk on 3rd floor
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291. # [01:46] <sheeri-iphone> Asa: thanx! Hopefully he's there.
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294. # [01:47] <sheeri-iphone> On my way.
295. # [01:48] <sheeri-iphone> By the bridge?
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297. # [01:48] <sheeri-iphone> Nmind found him.
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299. # [01:48] <taras> dietrich: so if FX_SESSION_RESTORE_COLLECT_DATA_MS is averaging ~1second
300. # [01:49] <taras> and i dont have that many tabs
301. # [01:49] <taras> how should i proceed in figuring out why it does that?
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303. # [01:50] <dietrich> taras: how does the session storage telemetry look?
304. # [01:50] <dietrich> taras: another thing to try is narrowing down which tab
305. # [01:50] <dietrich> and then we can look at that sessionstore.js
306. # [01:50] <taras> dietrich: 41ms average
307. # [01:51] <dietrich> taras: for which telemetry key?
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311. # [01:51] <taras> dietrich: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5961467/moz/session_store.PNG
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314. # [01:53] <gavin> ttaubert: the problem is that "2s after" might overlap with another tab switch
315. # [01:54] <gavin> (atm there's a setTimeout between the click and the actual switch - the delayed capture can land right in the middle of it)
316. # [01:55] <taras> gavin: it seems to be solidly after
317. # [01:56] <taras> right after
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319. # [01:56] <taras> i haven't had luck with it interleaving
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321. # [01:56] <taras> after i added the reportError that is
322. # [01:57] <gavin> taras: right after what?
323. # [01:57] <taras> but then again, it could've been the cache part of it interleaving
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326. # [01:57] <gavin> by "in the middle of it" I mean "after the setTimeout call, but before the callback"
327. # [01:57] <taras> gavin: after the sequence of the events that make up a single tab switch
328. # [01:57] <taras> gavin: but i dont have any solid data either way
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331. # [01:58] <taras> commenting it out seems to work...but i'm not sure which part of thumbnail capture is getting in the way
332. # [01:58] <dietrich> taras: hrm, i thought we had session storage telemetry, but maybe we don't
333. # [01:59] <dietrich> taras: file a bug and assign to ttaubert?
334. # [01:59] <dietrich> (about thumbnails)
335. # [01:59] <taras> dietrich: i did
336. # [01:59] <taras> i even filed one for gavin
337. # [01:59] <dietrich> great, thanks
338. # [02:00] <taras> 743069 and the dep
339. # [02:01] <dietrich> those are pretty general. i'll file a thumbnail-specific one.
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341. # [02:02] <taras> i think he already did
342. # [02:02] * dietrich looks
343. # [02:02] <taras> nm
344. # [02:02] <taras> i dont see it
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364. # [02:14] <@khuey> the state of California just sent me a drivers license that says I need corrective lenses
365. # [02:14] <@khuey> but I've never worn glasses in my life
366. # [02:14] <gavin> good thing they notified you before something bad happened
367. # [02:14] <@khuey> and passed the vision test without these imaginary glasses
368. # [02:15] <mccr8> On my very first license, my first name was spelled "Andrw".
369. # [02:16] <dholbert> ###!!!ASSERTION: First name should contain at least one vowel. c'mon
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372. # [02:17] <dholbert> khuey, just use it as an excuse to wear super-cool-looking aviator glasses everywhere now
373. # [02:18] <@khuey> dholbert: ha
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376. # [02:19] <nigelb> dholbert++
377. # [02:19] <@khuey> "no maam, I can't take these off for takeoff, my drivers license says I have to wear glasses at all times in a vehicle"
378. # [02:20] <darktrojan> better that than your eyesight saying you have to wear glasses at all times :/
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381. # [02:21] <@khuey> indeed
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385. # [02:24] <Waldo> khuey: better drive over to the DMV pronto to fix that!
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390. # [02:25] <taras> gavin: nm, got tab thumbnail capture to showup inbetween tabswitch steps
391. # [02:25] <taras> holding down ctrl+tab is sufficient
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396. # [02:28] <gavin> taras: I just filed bug 743877
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405. # [02:37] <taras> gavin: so what does "another hacky patch" aim to accomplish?
406. # [02:37] <gavin> taras: it just delays doing more work to see whether that's the work that's slow
407. # [02:41] <taras> after removing setTimeout, I haven't seen >6ms spent to switch the tab
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409. # [02:41] <taras> content is another matter :)
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411. # [02:41] <taras> 6ms still seems horribly slow, but it's a lot better than 30
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416. # [02:43] <gavin> taras: also it has the side effect of keeping the actual visual "tab" indicator responsive, even if the content switching isn't
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419. # [02:43] <taras> yeah
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421. # [02:44] <taras> i noticed this makes the biggest difference when lazy tab loading
422. # [02:44] <taras> i guess we force a reflow or something when tab switching
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424. # [02:45] <taras> i guess the proper way to do this is to request animation frame it
425. # [02:46] <taras> ie mozRequestAnimationFrame
426. # [02:49] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/7702bca6b64d - Kyle Huey - Refix bug 741248 harder. r=me
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428. # [02:49] <@khuey> cpearce: ^ should be fixed
429. # [02:49] <taras> oh wow
430. # [02:49] <taras> this is super smooth now
431. # [02:49] <cpearce> khuey++
432. # [02:49] <taras> amazing
433. # [02:50] * taras loves guessing
434. # [02:50] <taras> holy frigging crap
435. # [02:50] <@khuey> taras: if you use the things designed for the use case, good things happen :-P
436. # [02:51] <taras> yeah
437. # [02:51] <taras> or i just not paint content
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439. # [02:51] <taras> and now it stopped being smooth :(
440. # [02:52] <taras> i wonder why it stops being smooth after a while
441. # [02:53] <luke> what is the easiest way to add a compile flag (-pg) to every compilation (locally)?
442. # [02:53] <jtcranmer> export CXX='g++ -pg' CC='gcc -pg' ?
443. # [02:53] <luke> ah, that'll work
444. # [02:55] * taras wishes he were pwalton
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447. # [02:59] <taras> khuey: but yeah, generally i agree
448. # [02:59] <taras> who loves to debug animation issues?
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450. # [03:00] <@khuey> "loves", idk
451. # [03:00] <@khuey> you could ask bz to poke at it
452. # [03:01] <jviereck> roc: I got the printing stuff implemented (including preview). But when I run the tests, I get a failure
453. # [03:02] <jviereck> roc: TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html | Exited with code -6 during test run
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455. # [03:02] <taras> well
456. # [03:02] <taras> good news is that this is 100x better than existing code
457. # [03:02] <taras> and i suspect bz or someone who knows stuff can make it really nice
458. # [03:02] <@khuey> jviereck: sounds like you're hitting a fatal assertion
459. # [03:02] <@khuey> jviereck: 6 is SIG_ABRT
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462. # [03:04] <jviereck> khuey: is there a common mistake that leads to this exception? Or a good way to figure out what's going wrong?
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464. # [03:04] <@khuey> jviereck: run the tests under a debugger and wait for it to tell you that things are broken?
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467. # [03:05] <jviereck> khuey: ahaa… Are you located in the MV office?
468. # [03:05] <jviereck> does this means creating a debug build?
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471. # [03:06] <@khuey> jviereck: I'm in SF
472. # [03:06] <@khuey> jviereck: and yes
473. # [03:06] <@khuey> rebuild with --enable-debug --disable-optimize
474. # [03:06] <@khuey> and then run the tests under gdb
475. # [03:06] <@khuey> and it'll break when the signal happens
476. # [03:06] <jviereck> how to run under gdb?
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478. # [03:07] <@khuey> jviereck: also, are you sure you don't already have a debug build?
479. # [03:07] <@khuey> that's the default
480. # [03:07] <@khuey> jviereck: how are you running the tests now?
481. # [03:07] <jviereck> khuey: I have removed these flags...
482. # [03:08] <gavin> Enn: do you know whether https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302667#c8 is still true, and if so, whether we can change it?
483. # [03:10] <Enn> gavin: I don't know if it is true, but it should be true so that dragging things in background windows works
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486. # [03:11] <Enn> gavin: pressing the mouse raises or focuses the window usually so hard to tell
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494. # [03:15] <gavin> Enn: wouldn't making dragging things in backgroun windows work require that we fire the events regardless of focus state?
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499. # [03:16] <Enn> isn't that what you're asking to be changed?
500. # [03:16] <brahmana|web> I have a website being served on https. The static contents (like images) are served with Cache-Control: public.
501. # [03:17] <brahmana|web> I see that the FF (latest) is caching the contents. about:cache shows them being in the disk cache.
502. # [03:17] <Enn> gavin: note that whether we can implement might also be platform specific
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505. # [03:17] <brahmana|web> However when I reload the page the browser is hitting the server again, getting a 304 and then reading the content from cache.
506. # [03:18] <brahmana|web> Is there a way I can make it read from cache directly as long as the entry hasn't expired?
507. # [03:18] <brahmana|web> The expiry date is 7 days here, btw.
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509. # [03:20] <gavin> Enn: that comment is saying that drag events are only fired for focused elements. I think that drag events should always be fired regardless of focus state.
510. # [03:20] <gavin> Enn: but I need to look into my issue more
511. # [03:20] <aw1231> I am new to firefox development and I am working on bug 597064 and I am trying to figure out where the utilityPath comes from for this method: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/build/automation.py.in#739
512. # [03:20] <jhford> i'm trying to write an extension for the first time. i remember seeing someone using an inspector on Xul. what's that called?
513. # [03:20] <Enn> gavin: focused elements? no that should not be the case right now. I assumed you meant focused windows.
514. # [03:21] <squib> jhford: DOM inspector?
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518. # [03:21] <Enn> gavin: which do you mean?
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521. # [03:22] <jhford> squib: yup! that's it. the dom inspector has changed a lot since i used it last
522. # [03:22] <jhford> thanks
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525. # [03:23] <gavin> Enn: oh, I see what you mean
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527. # [03:24] <gavin> Enn: I want to back out the patch for bug 302667 because it causes other issues (bug 743877)
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529. # [03:25] <gavin> Enn: so I'm trying to debug the underlying issue that led to the patch for bug 302667
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534. # [03:26] <luke> does anyone know how to prevent compiling with -ffunction-sections?
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544. # [03:30] <RyanVM> mattwoodrow: feel free to reland
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548. # [03:31] <RyanVM> and also, i wish more effort would be made to keep the Modules wiki up to date
549. # [03:31] <RyanVM> as it's the only reference that I know of that has everything in one place
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551. # [03:31] <gavin> which parts of it are out of date?
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553. # [03:31] <RyanVM> gavin: apparently graphics
554. # [03:32] <gavin> talk to joe!
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556. # [03:32] <RyanVM> from bug 737239 - "We haven't been enforcing this at all for the graphics module at all. The current list of peers in that document is considerably out of date - Though it may be technically correct since new peers haven't been discussed at all to my knowledge."
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558. # [03:32] <RyanVM> i'm not comfortable landing patches that violate the stated policy
559. # [03:34] <@khuey> yeah, they should clean that up
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561. # [03:34] <@khuey> having an accurate list of peers is a good thing
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565. # [03:35] <brahmana|web> biesi: ping
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567. # [03:35] <biesi> brahmana|web, pong
568. # [03:36] <Unfocused> gavin: thanks for landing that on aurora for me
569. # [03:36] <gavin> Unfocused: np!
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572. # [03:36] <brahmana|web> biesi: Is it normal for FF to hit the server for cached content, get a 304 and then read from cache?
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575. # [03:37] <brahmana|web> biesi: I see that behavior for SSL content which is still not expired
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578. # [03:37] <@bz_away> brahmana|web: is your concern the GET, or the reading from cache?
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580. # [03:37] <biesi> brahmana|web, it's normal. depends on various headers
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582. # [03:38] <@bz> and on the url
583. # [03:38] <brahmana|web> Cache-Control: max-age=604800, public
584. # [03:39] <brahmana|web> the url doesn't change i.e. no cache busting params - in fact no query params at all
585. # [03:39] <biesi> you could make an http log, that explains why we validate
586. # [03:39] <biesi> firebot, google mozilla http debugging
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588. # [03:39] <firebot> biesi: HTTP Logging - MDN - Mozilla Developer Network -- https://developer.mozilla.org/en/HTTP_Logging
589. # [03:40] <brahmana|web> Will do that right away..
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596. # [03:43] <jesup> ryanvm: Gerv has indicated they were planning on revamping the module peer system this winter/spring; if that doesn't happen they were going to go through and clean up the list
597. # [03:43] <jlebar> Suppose I want to make a temporary file inside of a make rule.
598. # [03:43] <jlebar> Apparently I can't just do TMPFILE:=$(shell mktemp).k
599. # [03:43] <RyanVM> jesup: OK
600. # [03:43] <jlebar> Because variable assignments don't exist inside rules, or something?
601. # [03:44] <jesup> khuey: the peer list is majorly out of date with reality (and the module list)
602. # [03:44] <jlebar> Wow, I have to use eval?
603. # [03:44] <biesi> jlebar, rule content is just a shell script...
604. # [03:45] <@khuey> jesup: only for some modules
605. # [03:45] <jlebar> biesi, Except for stuff inside $()?
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608. # [03:46] <biesi> jlebar, yeah, that gets substituted with make vars
609. # [03:46] <biesi> also $@, etc
610. # [03:47] <jlebar> biesi, So what's the point of $(shell)?
611. # [03:47] <jlebar> biesi, Is that exactly the same as backticks?
612. # [03:47] <brahmana|web> Does hitting Ctrl + R force cache validation?
613. # [03:47] <jlebar> brahmana|web, ctrl + shift + R
614. # [03:47] <jlebar> And...maybe. I'm not totally sure. :)
615. # [03:47] <brahmana|web> :)
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620. # [03:48] <brahmana|web> Closing the browser and opening the same website pulled cached content from cache, butting pressing "Ctrl + R" made the browser to check with the server
621. # [03:48] <timA> Mossop: ping
622. # [03:49] <Mossop> timA: pong
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629. # [03:51] <timA> Mossop: hey. bug 731541 requires that we have the ability to embed icon resources in EXEs from javascript (a la redit.exe). One option is to just package redit.exe with Firefox and invoke it. Another option is to move redit.cpp into a module. Do you have thoughts as to which approach would be better?
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631. # [03:52] <gavin> my "module" do you mean xpcom component?
632. # [03:52] <gavin> (is this code compatibly licensed?)
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634. # [03:52] <brahmana|web> biesi: I see this in the log - Validating based on VALIDATE_ALWAYS load flag -- Is that because of Ctrl + R ?
635. # [03:52] <timA> gavin: I believe it's MPL (written by Mossop)
636. # [03:53] <gavin> ah
637. # [03:53] <gavin> oh it's in the tree, I see
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639. # [03:53] <biesi> brahmana|web, yes
640. # [03:53] <timA> gavin: there was a suggestion to put it in imagelib
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643. # [03:54] <biesi> brahmana|web, you can press enter in the urlbar if you want to avoid that problem
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645. # [03:55] <brahmana|web> biesi: oh ok.. and what would be the behavior of pressing the reload button?
646. # [03:55] <Mossop> timA: Well having it as a module (with ctypes presumably?) would mean more scope for sanely dealing with errors and calling an outside exe is always going to be more of a pain than doing it in process I'd think. So I guess the question is how difficult it is to do through ctypes
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648. # [03:55] <timA> Mossop, gavin: bug 738500 is where the patch would be posted
649. # [03:55] <brahmana|web> that is same as Ctrl + R -- just tried it
650. # [03:55] <biesi> brahmana|web, so the reload button will always validate
651. # [03:56] <biesi> but just pressing enter should follow the headers
652. # [03:56] <timA> Mossop: I actually wrote a version in js-ctypes, but now we're considering a C++ implementation
653. # [03:56] <biesi> brahmana|web, what does the log say for pressing enter?
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655. # [03:56] <brahmana|web> let me check..
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657. # [03:56] <biesi> though I will have to get off this bus soon and will be offline
658. # [03:57] <brahmana|web> I can drop you an email...
659. # [03:57] <brahmana|web> i.e if you want, of course.. :)
660. # [03:58] <biesi> that works
661. # [03:58] <biesi> or maybe bz can help you on irc, if you prefer
662. # [03:58] <biesi> (I won't really be around the rest of the evening)
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665. # [03:59] <brahmana|web> biesi: sure, thank you
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668. # [03:59] <timA> Mossop, gavin: so I guess there are 3 potential approaches... package the EXE and invoke it from js, fix up the js-ctypes implementation, or put the C++ implementation somewhere accessible (imagelib maybe?)
669. # [04:00] <gavin> the last option sounds simplest to me
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671. # [04:00] <gavin> but, uh, lot of details I don't know about
672. # [04:00] <gavin> I gtg, will be back later
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674. # [04:01] <brahmana|web> biesi: Pressing enter worked as you said. No validation
675. # [04:01] <Mossop> timA: I'd try to avoid the external exe, otherwise I don't have much to say. Sure C++ is going to be easiest (because it already exists) just means more xpcom goop for it. I remember basically nothing about the code to say whehter ctypes is a problem for it or not
676. # [04:01] <@dbaron> any ideas what we'd have changed since late December that would have broken access to TestRunner in window.parent.wrappedJSObject.TestRunner from a data URL inside the chrome mochitest harness?
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678. # [04:02] <@dbaron> in particular, yielding https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404077#c27
679. # [04:03] <timA> Mossop: mmk. There's a working js-ctypes implementation, but bholley has weighed in against using js-ctypes for this so I think I'm going to go with writing the XPCOM goop
680. # [04:03] <bholley> Mossop: I think the ctypes is more goop than the XPCOM approach
681. # [04:04] <bholley> Mossop: because it requires redefining the vtable layout in JS
682. # [04:04] <Mossop> Fair enough, sounds like C++ is the way to go
683. # [04:04] <timA> bholley: that's for the shortcut stuff. This one was the ICO buffer manipulation stuff... probably equally complicated though :)
684. # [04:05] <bholley> timA: yeah :-)
685. # [04:05] <timA> Mossop, bholley, gavin: cool, thanks guys! I'll get started on that
686. # [04:05] <timA> bholley: do you think there's any problem with moving (rather than copying) redit from its current location?
687. # [04:06] <timA> oops, I meant Mossop
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689. # [04:07] <Mossop> timA: I believe that people still use redit.exe if that is what you're asking
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696. # [04:12] <jlebar> Oh god, if I do |# $(shell echo foo)|, that shell script is still run, isn't it?
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701. # [04:16] <@bz> jlebar: the shell?
702. # [04:16] <jlebar> bz, Make.
703. # [04:17] <@bz> jlebar: ah, yes
704. # [04:17] <@bz> jlebar: tool of the devil
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706. # [04:17] <jlebar> bz, You *think* you're commenting it out, but it's just a cruel joke.
707. # [04:17] <@bz> jlebar: much like most things in that problem space
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709. # [04:17] <dholbert> /nick dholbert|afk
710. # [04:17] <Callek> jlebar: that shell invoke doesn't happen in MozBuild on win
711. # [04:17] <Callek> with GNUMake anyway
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714. # [04:18] <Callek> (tested with |# $(shell sleep 3600)|
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716. # [04:18] <jlebar> Callek, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1561433 ?
717. # [04:19] <jlebar> Callek, It may be killing the shell early.
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719. # [04:19] <jlebar> I think it does that to be fun.
720. # [04:19] <Callek> jlebar: AHHH that *is* invoked
721. # [04:19] <jlebar> That is so ridiculous.
722. # [04:19] <Callek> jlebar: the reason is that by putting the tab before the # char, you're telling make "pass "# " + value of $(shell echo foo) to the shell
723. # [04:20] <Callek> jlebar: its not a make comment but a shell invoke
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725. # [04:20] <@bz> 1) Having whitespace mean stuff is evil
726. # [04:20] <@bz> 2) Having different kinds of whitespace mean different stuff is make
727. # [04:20] <Callek> bz: yes, and yes.
728. # [04:20] <@bz> 'nuff said
729. # [04:20] <Callek> well for 1) I like whitespace mean stuff in python
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731. # [04:21] <Callek> at least it means stuff in obvious ways ;-)
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734. # [04:21] <Callek> jlebar: hth
735. # [04:21] * mwu goes to code in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29
736. # [04:21] <jlebar> writing make is too hard. I'm just going to write a long shell script inside @.
737. # [04:21] <@khuey> if make is the tool of the devil, my life suddenly makes much more sense to me
738. # [04:21] <Callek> jlebar: UGH please don't
739. # [04:22] <Callek> jlebar: well actually... what are you working on
740. # [04:22] <Callek> a long shell script is sometimes a good idea, but in a @ is usually never a good idea
741. # [04:22] <jlebar> Callek, I'm writing a poor man's rsync. It's going to hash files locally and on my phone, then diff the results.
742. # [04:22] <jlebar> This is not hard in shell.
743. # [04:23] <Callek> jlebar: that might be simpler with a shell script, but if this is landing in Mozilla-anywhere and meant to have associated automation *for the love of god* do not prefix it with @ when invoking
744. # [04:23] <mwu> I've sorta wanted to just have rsync on the phone
745. # [04:23] <Callek> we want failures to be noticed
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747. # [04:23] <jlebar> Callek, I should use $(shell) ?
748. # [04:23] <jlebar> mwu, Well, you'll get a lame version by the time I'm done. :)
749. # [04:24] <Callek> jlebar: I mean do not do |\t@some_shell_script| instead do |\tsome_shell_script|
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751. # [04:24] <Callek> jlebar: @ will ignore error values returned
752. # [04:24] <jlebar> Callek, I see.
753. # [04:24] <Callek> without @ you're letting make realize when an error happens in the script, and thus abort
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755. # [04:25] <jlebar> Sure, okay.
756. # [04:25] * Callek knows he has gone to lower hell, when he (a) knows Make syntax rules by heart, (b) Works in RelEng dealing with Android Tegra's, and (c) still uses SeaMonkey nevermind being part of the SeaMonkey Driver team ;-)
757. # [04:26] * Callek is even more scared that he loves all of that
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759. # [04:28] <jlebar> Callek, Does sh have an equivalent of bash's <(cmd)?
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761. # [04:29] <Callek> jlebar: why not do #!/bin/bash ?
762. # [04:29] <Callek> in the script
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766. # [04:29] <@bz> choices choices
767. # [04:29] <@bz> script in sh, or pull nails with pliers
768. # [04:30] <kanru`> jlebar, mwu: you know you can use |adb sync| right?
769. # [04:30] <jesup> /bin/sh effectively disappeared many moons ago
770. # [04:30] <jlebar> Callek, Okay, this is going to get fun. :)
771. # [04:31] <jlebar> kanru, AFAICT that uses last-modified time rather than hashing.
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773. # [04:31] <Callek> jlebar: you mean you can't use bash, or don't want to use bash?
774. # [04:31] <jlebar> Callek, No, yours is a good suggestion.
775. # [04:31] * Callek can possibly pull out of his bag of tricks a solution to the < bash redirection operator for shell :-)
776. # [04:32] <Callek> s/shell/sh/
777. # [04:32] <Callek> ahh ok :-)
778. # [04:32] <jlebar> (Of course you end a define with "enddef", not "enddef" in Make.)
779. # [04:32] <jlebar> er, endef, not enddef.
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781. # [04:32] <jlebar> enddef would make way too much sense.
782. # [04:32] <jesup> Of course, I prefer to script in tcsh... :-) Probably because I wrote a seriously extended CShell for non-Unix machines ~27ish years ago...
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784. # [04:32] <Callek> jlebar: yea, and I *always* suggest ending a define in Make with an extra blank line
785. # [04:32] * jesup boggles that he just said that
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787. # [04:33] <jlebar> Callek, Before or after the endef?
788. # [04:33] * jlebar is taking no chances here.
789. # [04:33] <Callek> jlebar: before
790. # [04:34] <Callek> jlebar: mostly because I have found issues when its missing but none when its not
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805. # [04:40] <jesup> bz: tweezers
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808. # [04:40] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/6fe5b0271cd1 - Serge Gautherie - Bug 740769. (Bv1) Convert test_bug325418.js file to LF end-of-lines, Fix nsITimer.idl documentation. r=bzbarsky.
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810. # [04:40] <jgilbert> any ideas why my mac clobber opt builds are segfaulting?
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815. # [04:44] <philor> jgilbert: what rev of what repo?
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825. # [04:47] <jgilbert> philor: moz-central, multiple revs, currently 91171
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836. # [04:52] <@dbaron> philor, what's up with all the manual orange comments you've been making today?
837. # [04:53] <philor> dbaron: IT accidentally moved bzapi to the new datacenter, rather suddenly, this morning
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839. # [04:53] <philor> well, future tense, it's still in the process
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842. # [04:54] <philor> so, no tbplbot, just my addressbar
843. # [04:54] <@dbaron> philor, bug# ?
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845. # [04:54] <@dbaron> philor, I'm happy to change its severity to blocker to cause somebody to be paged
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847. # [04:55] <philor> dbaron: bug 743827, you'd be in an edit war with IT, since they just dropped it because they're going as fast as they can
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851. # [04:57] <philor> what we really need are frequent brownbags and blog posts about "what these words mean to IT"
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854. # [04:57] <philor> because none of us knew that having the bzapi hostname include "-dev" meant "constantly at risk of someone thinking, correctly within their world, that it can be shut off at any time"
855. # [04:59] <philor> just like nobody involved with tbpl, or I think treestatus, really internalized that when they say "we'll put it on the generic cluster" they mean "every single request may be on a different machine with a different filesystem and no shared state for anything not in a db"
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857. # [05:00] <@khuey> imho we should close the tree and bump the bug to blocker
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863. # [05:03] <philor> am I doing that bad a job of starring?
864. # [05:04] <@khuey> heh
865. # [05:04] <philor> or do you think they can make it transfer faster?
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867. # [05:04] <@khuey> well the fact that its not assigned to anyone isn't encouraging
868. # [05:04] <@khuey> but maybe they're on it, idk
869. # [05:05] <philor> they were on it before that was filed
870. # [05:05] <@khuey> ok
871. # [05:06] <philor> and of course I think it's a blocker, but I think everything that annoys me is, I still miss the days when we had one slave per build, and I could file blockers against IT every time it needed to be rebooted :)
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878. # [05:10] <philor> sure makes the Android failures seem nice, though: not only do I have autocomplete for every single one, I know what three letters to type for each one to bring it up first
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881. # [05:11] <@bz> heycam: ping
882. # [05:11] <heycam> bz, pong
883. # [05:15] <heycam> bz, I fixed up the #es-nullable-type problem just now btw
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886. # [05:21] <heycam> "Please do not abort a push to try (with ctrl-c) once it has begun." this is an instinct that is hard to overcome. I guess there's no way to *prevent* this from causing a problem? (rolling back out the pushlog entry automatically?)
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892. # [05:25] <philor> it's not just that it's hard to overcome, it's actually impossible to tell whether or not you are at the point where you'll break the repo
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894. # [05:26] <philor> the one time I broke try, there had been absolutely no output, until I killed it and everything down to the "don't have done what you just did" message showed up
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896. # [05:27] <philor> so the next time a push to try hung on me, I left it for a couple of hours before I got brave enough to kill it
897. # [05:27] <heycam> I like to think that the more you wait, the bigger things will blow up when you press ctrl+c
898. # [05:28] <@bz> heycam: looking
899. # [05:29] <@bz> heycam: looks good
900. # [05:29] <heycam> bz, cool.
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902. # [05:29] <jlebar> mwu, Well, this incremental thing is much faster when you have to update a few files. But because there's no way to batch-push a list of files, it's slower when you have many files.
903. # [05:29] <@bz> heycam: all we need now is for specs to actually update as needed...
904. # [05:29] <jlebar> mwu, Unless you know of a way to batch-push, I'm going to have to tar and untar...
905. # [05:29] <heycam> bz, yes if every time I commit a change to the spec it automatically fixed all dependent specs that would be nice
906. # [05:30] <@bz> heycam: it'll be easier once webidl sorta stabilizes. :(
907. # [05:30] * philor sees that in the case of bug 687972, his starring really *is* that bad
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910. # [05:30] <Devan_MSU> spartan: yup
911. # [05:30] <heycam> bz, the more you keep implementing and bug-reporting, the closer it gets to being stabilised :)
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913. # [05:30] <@bz> heycam: yes, I know
914. # [05:30] <heycam> bz, of course this is not stopping the spec from being published as a CR next week
915. # [05:30] <@bz> heycam: mmm
916. # [05:30] <@bz> heycam: I have a hard time believing that's happening
917. # [05:30] <heycam> bz, but given everyone looks at dev.w3.org it doesn't really matter
918. # [05:30] <@bz> heycam: Given 0 implementation experience
919. # [05:30] <jviereck> khuey: finally, I got the debug build done
920. # [05:30] <heycam> bz, oh I was on the transition call this morning, so I believe it is happening :)
921. # [05:31] <heycam> bz, only LCWD -> CR, not CR -> later
922. # [05:31] <@bz> heycam: oh, sure
923. # [05:31] <jviereck> running the unit tests now gives:
924. # [05:31] <jviereck> 162 INFO TEST-END | /tests/content/canvas/test/test_toDataURL_parameters.html | finished in 861ms
925. # [05:31] <jviereck> 4163 INFO TEST-START | /tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html
926. # [05:31] <jviereck> 4164 INFO Error: Unable to restore focus, expect failures and timeouts.
927. # [05:31] <jviereck> ++DOMWINDOW == 21 (0x11c5cbc78) [serial = 55] [outer = 0x1182f9000]
928. # [05:31] <jviereck> 4165 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html | an unexpected uncaught JS exception reported through window.onerror - Error loading script at http://mochi.test:8888/tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/resources/webgl-test-harness.js:1
929. # [05:31] <@khuey> jviereck: we should get you faster hardware
930. # [05:31] <@bz> heycam: I meant "This is so going back to LC"
931. # [05:31] <heycam> bz, ah
932. # [05:31] <@khuey> jviereck: so it doesn't abort?
933. # [05:31] <@bz> heycam: I mean... we're making substantive changes to it still
934. # [05:31] <heycam> bz, if any normative change is enough to go back to LC again, then it surely will
935. # [05:31] <jviereck> khuey: I was for lunch and there was something wrong with the C++ code I wrote...
936. # [05:31] <@bz> heycam: most of it hasn't really been read
937. # [05:31] <heycam> bz, no I know
938. # [05:31] <@bz> heycam: afaict
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940. # [05:32] <@bz> heycam: (not your fault, that last one)
941. # [05:32] <jviereck> khuey: honestly, I'm not sure what these lines are telling me :( I just see that there is an error, but have no clue what too look for. Any idea?
942. # [05:32] <@bz> heycam: our new stuff is aligned to it in some ways, but not others
943. # [05:32] <heycam> bz, I wonder how far along the WebKit folks are coming with implementing it, because I sure haven't heard (m)any bug reports from them
944. # [05:32] <@bz> heycam: missing some parser features to really sit down and handle all of it properly
945. # [05:32] <@bz> heycam: afaik the're not
946. # [05:32] <heycam> ah
947. # [05:32] <@bz> heycam: as in, they're not using webidl for their stuff
948. # [05:33] <@bz> heycam: internally
949. # [05:33] <@bz> heycam: and have no plans to, so much....
950. # [05:33] <heycam> bz, I see. well the actual consumption of the IDL I don't care so much about, but following the requirements in the spec would be good
951. # [05:33] <@bz> heycam: fwiw, I do hope that at some point here we'll have some in-tree tests that have idl exercising lots of corner cases
952. # [05:33] <@khuey> jviereck: can you pastebin your mozconfig?
953. # [05:33] <@bz> heycam: and an impl we can run as part of our tests
954. # [05:33] <heycam> bz, yeah that would be great
955. # [05:33] <@khuey> bz: I want to autogenerate tests eventually
956. # [05:34] <@bz> khuey: worksforme
957. # [05:34] <heycam> bz, once we get to work on the webidl test suite itself hopefully that will prod the others
958. # [05:34] <@bz> khuey: but I don't see how. ;()
959. # [05:34] <@bz> er, ;)
960. # [05:34] <@bz> heycam: maybe
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962. # [05:34] <jviereck> khuey: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1561548
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965. # [05:34] <@bz> heycam: I expect this to be a long hard slog, in general....
966. # [05:35] <@bz> khuey: how can we autogenerate tests of various normative statements in webidl?
967. # [05:35] <heycam> bz, yeah… when I say to the W3C folks that it's going to take a lot longer than the 3 months minimum CR time, given we need to wait for implementations...
968. # [05:35] <@khuey> jviereck: ok, does your machine support webgl?
969. # [05:35] <@khuey> jviereck: does webgl work in a firefox nightly build?
970. # [05:35] <jviereck> sure. It's the latest MacBook 13"
971. # [05:35] <sheeri> kumar you around?
972. # [05:35] <jviereck> khuey: the tests run fine without applying the patches I've worked on latly
973. # [05:35] <@khuey> ah
974. # [05:35] <@bz> heycam: there are people who think webidl can exit CR in 3 months?
975. # [05:36] <@khuey> bz: they have access to some good drugs over there at the w3c apparently
976. # [05:36] <heycam> bz, no, but a minimum time had to be put in so that's what we put :)
977. # [05:36] <@bz> heycam: I mean... maybe they have a test suite and implementations they're sitting on. ;)
978. # [05:36] <@bz> heycam: ah, heh
979. # [05:36] <@khuey> jviereck: ok, did the output tell you what the uncaught exception was?
980. # [05:36] <@bz> heycam: yes, you can be pretty certain 3 months won't constrain you to not exiting when you want to exit. ;)
981. # [05:36] <heycam> heh
982. # [05:37] <@bz> khuey: so by the way...
983. # [05:37] <kumar> hey sheeri
984. # [05:37] <@bz> khuey: I think we should probably autogenerate an optional_argc for methods that have trailing optional args with no default value
985. # [05:37] <sheeri> hi kumr
986. # [05:37] * padenot|away is now known as padenot
987. # [05:37] <sheeri> kumar even :D
988. # [05:37] * kumar adds kumr highlight
989. # [05:38] <@bz> khuey: and push specs to write in default values as needed
990. # [05:38] <jviereck> khuey: ahh, there are these lines as well:
991. # [05:38] <jviereck> 4166 ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html | an unexpected uncaught JS exception reported through window.onerror - WebGLTestHarnessModule is not defined at http://mochi.test:8888/tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html:126
992. # [05:38] <jviereck> JavaScript error: http://mochi.test:8888/tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html, line 126: WebGLTestHarnessModule is not defined
993. # [05:38] <jviereck> 4167 INFO TEST-END | /tests/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html | finished in 3679ms
994. # [05:38] <@khuey> bjacob: ^ ever seen that?
995. # [05:38] <jviereck> khuey: wait a second
996. # [05:38] <sheeri> kumar - do you have an IP for me? for where your'e coming from?
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998. # [05:38] <@khuey> bz: ok
999. # [05:38] <bjacob> khuey: i've never seen that
1000. # [05:38] <@khuey> bz: sounds reasonable
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1002. # [05:39] <jgilbert> so I'm getting http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1561553 for my mac clobber opt builds
1003. # [05:40] <jgilbert> pull was from last week, I think
1004. # [05:41] <@khuey> heh
1005. # [05:41] <@khuey> http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-dev/msg/6761e0c13186a3ed
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1007. # [05:41] <@khuey> chromium has wtf moments too
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1012. # [05:43] <@bz> khuey: hey, you mean their mobile subteam is going off and doing stuff?
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1014. # [05:43] <@khuey> bz: yeah
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1060. # [06:22] <JonathanS> Looks like MS bought the cookie, JavaScript, and SSL patents from AOL
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1064. # [06:31] <jlebar> Callek, I can't get #!/bin/bash to work in my define. Is there a trick?
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1066. # [06:32] <Callek> jlebar: umm wait, are you doing in GNUMake |define ... \ #!/bin/bash|
1067. # [06:32] <Callek> jlebar: what I suggested/thought was that you were creating an actual standalone bash script to get called by your Makefile
1068. # [06:32] <jlebar> Callek, Heh, that would be much more likely to work.
1069. # [06:33] <jlebar> Callek, I'll just do SHELL:=/bin/bash, unless there's a reason I shouldn't.
1070. # [06:33] <Callek> jlebar: if its local only I can't think of a strong reason
1071. # [06:33] <jlebar> Callek, What do you mean "local only"?
1072. # [06:33] <Callek> as in are you publishing the Makefile for others to use (such as mozilla infra)
1073. # [06:33] <jlebar> Callek, I am.
1074. # [06:34] <Callek> changing SHELL on others, *might* hurt people who are using another OS, or have bash in usr/local/bin etc.
1075. # [06:34] <jlebar> Well, using #!/bin/bash would hurt too, right?
1076. # [06:34] <Callek> afaik the shebang for generic #!/bin/bash search /usr/bin/ etc as well
1077. # [06:35] <Callek> while SHELL:= I don't think does an actual search and is presumed to actually exist
1078. # [06:35] * Callek is going from mem here, and it is after-all 12:30 pm for me, so I might be forgetting something
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1080. # [06:35] <jlebar> Callek, Heh, okay.
1081. # [06:36] <jlebar> Probably better to put it in a separate file anyway -- this stringing it together into a single sh command is kind of silly.
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1083. # [06:36] <Callek> jlebar: yea in a single define ifyou use |;| anywhere to split the actual commands instead of && you're in potential trouble too
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1085. # [06:37] <Callek> since your one-shell-invoke now has the potential to fail without bubbling up to make
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1087. # [06:37] <jlebar> Callek, It's complicated because some commands return non-zero and that's OK, so there are a bunch of || true's in there... :(
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1089. # [06:37] <Callek> joey knows a lot of gotchyas like that, but if you split it out to a script you can controlll things ;-)
1090. # [06:37] <jlebar> Callek, But it's 12:30 for me too. I'll cc you on the pull request, if you don't mind?
1091. # [06:38] <Callek> jlebar: set +e; ret=$?
1092. # [06:38] <jlebar> Callek, Yeah, in a script. :)
1093. # [06:38] <Callek> jlebar: then test ret when you need to ($? is the return code from the previous command executed)
1094. # [06:38] * Callek wonders if he is weird to know this stuff so well as a win user ;-) never owning a linux desktop
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1098. # [06:39] <Callek> jlebar: either way; good luck
1099. # [06:39] <jlebar> Callek, Thanks.
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1102. # [06:40] <heycam> Callek, jlebar, I think you can prefix the command with a "-" to have make ignore the exit code of the command
1103. # [06:41] <jlebar> heycam, make or bash?
1104. # [06:41] <heycam> jlebar, in make (did I get the context wrong?)
1105. # [06:41] <Callek> heycam: I think in make you use @
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1108. # [06:41] <heycam> Callek, I think "@" means don't print out the command
1109. # [06:41] <Callek> but there is a - syntax too
1110. # [06:41] <jlebar> heycam, Not entirely, but this is a giant bash script in make, and I want to ignore just some return codes...it's a mess. :)
1111. # [06:42] <jlebar> heycam, However, it is quite a bit faster than the previous cocmmand.
1112. # [06:42] <Callek> heycam: I could easily be mixing up my decorators for Make
1113. # [06:42] <Callek> jlebar: umm are you redoing packaging/l10n/installer stuff???
1114. # [06:42] <jlebar> Callek, it's the code which pushes files to the device in b2g.
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1116. # [06:43] <Callek> ahh b2g the only area with convoluted mess Makefile stuff that I don't have experience looking at
1117. # [06:43] <Callek> :-)
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1119. # [06:44] <dholbert> bz, ping?
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1122. # [06:45] <dholbert> bz, in WipeContainingBlock, I'm wondering if it'd make sense to just set nextSibling to null if aIsAppend is set
1123. # [06:46] <dholbert> bz, (on this line: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/layout/base/nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp?mark=10982-10982#10958 )
1124. # [06:46] <dholbert> bz, (assuming I'm understanding the significance of |aIsAppend| correctly
1125. # [06:46] <dholbert> )
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1128. # [06:49] <@bz> dholbert: ack
1129. # [06:49] <@bz> dholbert: one sec, looking up the code
1130. # [06:49] <dholbert> bz, thanks
1131. # [06:51] <@bz> nextSibling can be non-null when aIsAppend is true
1132. # [06:51] <@bz> dholbert: ^
1133. # [06:52] <dholbert> bz, ah, ok -- what sort of situation would cause that?
1134. # [06:52] <@bz> ::after
1135. # [06:53] <@bz> it's slightly messy
1136. # [06:53] * @bz would love to clean up that stuff more
1137. # [06:53] <aja> dholbert: ping me when you and bz are done
1138. # [06:53] <@bz> but basically, aIsAppend being true just means "caller will go through AppendFramesToParent"
1139. # [06:53] <@bz> in which case we can make some optimizations we can't make otherwise
1140. # [06:54] <@bz> (we should fix the docs to say AppendFramesToParent, not AppendFrames)
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1142. # [06:54] <dholbert> aja, going afk again in a minute actually
1143. # [06:54] <dholbert> aja, haven't fixed the nesting issue yet -- that's on my agenda for tomorrow though
1144. # [06:54] <dholbert> aja, (it's nearly 10pm in my timezone right now, sorry :))
1145. # [06:54] <dholbert> bz, Gotcha, ok
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1147. # [06:55] <aja> dholbert: think that double display:flex thing in my test should probably be unnecessary.....width bug in webkit for inlines containing blocks.....that's all i wanted to mention
1148. # [06:55] <dholbert> aja, gotcha, cool
1149. # [06:55] <dholbert> aja, I still want to fix it. :)
1150. # [06:56] <dholbert> aja, but thanks for the heads-up
1151. # [06:56] <aja> sleep well
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1156. # [06:59] <dholbert> aja, thanks!
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1161. # [07:03] <@bz_sleep> dholbert: g'night!
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1180. # [07:16] <vpxlib> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=730907 can you guys please update to libvpx 1.0 where the faster decoder and encoder is crucial for WebRTC?
1181. # [07:16] <vpxlib> Chrome has already updated to libvpx 1.0, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=111963
1182. # [07:18] <WeirdAl> bug's assigned to "nobody", which means we just need someone to pick up the bug, write up a patch, and submit it for review
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1186. # [07:18] <jesup> vpxlib: we're running something close to 1.0.0 already - see derf's latest checkins. (derf == Tim Terriberry). We will definitely be updating to 1.0.0 soon.
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1188. # [07:19] <vpxlib> thanks
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1229. # [08:18] <philor> ugh, bug 743916
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1239. # [08:31] <Mnyromyr> heh
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1243. # [08:35] <@dolske> <3 https://supporters.eff.org/shop/floppy-disk-journal-8-inch
1244. # [08:35] <@dolske> "Our 8" floppy disk journal is a wonderful way to confuse teenagers."
1245. # [08:36] <mimcpher> dolske: as someone too young for 8" floppies, I kinda want this a lot.
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1247. # [08:39] <philor> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&who=philringnalda%40gmail.com&from=2012-04-09&to=2012-04-10&sort=when is frightening
1248. # [08:40] <philor> what was I thinking, not turning off auto-cc this morning?
1249. # [08:41] <hsivonen> dolske: I'm over 30 and I'm confused by 8" floppies
1250. # [08:41] <hsivonen> my memory starts at 5.25"
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1253. # [08:46] <Mark_Capella> 8" floppies ... wasn't that CP/M systems ...?
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1256. # [08:47] <WeirdAl> I've never even heard of 8 in floppies...
1257. # [08:48] <Mark_Capella> buts lets get real and talk paper tape ... or PDP-8 with 8bit bytes ... :)
1258. # [08:49] <Mark_Capella> front panel toggle switches and unit record machines that you actually wired
1259. # [08:49] <@dolske> I have seen an 8" floppy IRL a few times, but never in conjunction with a system that actually used them.
1260. # [08:49] * aja remebers using Kans City Standard (paper tape format) on cassette tapes
1261. # [08:49] <aja> Kansas
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1263. # [08:50] <aja> Motorola 6809 with 40K memory!!!
1264. # [08:50] <glob> hrm, i don't think you can use that journal.. it looks write protected to me
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1266. # [08:50] <Mark_Capella> Octal based math ... count up to 7777 and roll over to 0... :P
1267. # [08:51] <@dolske> aja: was that the format they used to publish in magazines, where you could cut out programs and read 'em in directly?
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1271. # [08:52] <aja> dolske: hmm...not that i recall...but i do rember some older optical scanners that wrote to paper tape
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1274. # [08:54] <aja> ...for reading fill-in-the-dot-with-a-number-two-pencil tests
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1276. # [08:59] <nickc> Hi could anyone give me some help on how to start this bug 738710
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1278. # [08:59] <nickc> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738710
1279. # [09:06] <@smaug> nickc: it is perhaps a bit early for many FF UI devs
1280. # [09:06] <@smaug> though, perhaps ttaubert could help
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1283. # [09:08] <aja> ummm...isn't therer already a UI option for that?
1284. # [09:09] <nickc> Oh
1285. # [09:09] <aja> Options -> Add-on Bar
1286. # [09:10] <aja> uncheck it
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1288. # [09:10] <nickc> Uncheck it already
1289. # [09:11] <@smaug> aja: er, where?
1290. # [09:11] <philor> aja: that doesn't make it slide into view when you hover the bottom of the window
1291. # [09:11] <nickc> Tools -> add-on bar
1292. # [09:11] <@smaug> aja: also, I thought that bug is about auto-hide, using a timer
1293. # [09:11] <aja> ah....gotcha
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1295. # [09:12] <nickc> So it is a bit ealier
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1297. # [09:12] <nickc> Any bug I can work with (not that hard)
1298. # [09:12] * philor tries and fails to imagine what the pref UI would look like, especially if it was shoehorned into the menu
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1319. # [09:40] <@smaug> KWierso: if so, please say that in the bug
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1339. # [10:12] <Mavericks> are there specific rules of casting on mdn? for instance from PRUnichar to const char ?
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1342. # [10:14] <@smaug> hmm, where is MAXPATHLEN defined
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1344. # [10:14] <Mavericks> If there's a method that already handles it, or if it's acceptable to do (const char*)
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1346. # [10:15] <Mavericks> smaug: where did you see it ?line # ?
1347. # [10:15] <Mavericks> smaug: http://miburl.com/NwSt2P
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1356. # [10:20] <biesi> Mavericks|afk, casting from PRUnichar* to const char* is likely not the right thing...
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1380. # [10:51] <JesperHansen> I am sad. You broke firebug... Until friday
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1404. # [11:18] <reed> did latest nightly stop accepting certs with MD5 signature?
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1414. # [11:44] <Ms2ger> bz_sleep, AryehGregor has nice autogenerated WebIDL tests
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1417. # [11:52] <Ms2ger> mounir, I hate nsnull :(
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1419. # [11:56] <mounir> Ms2ger: I hate NULL
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1421. # [11:56] <mounir> Ms2ger: I would prefer you to use 0 instead of NULL
1422. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> Eww
1423. # [11:56] <Ms2ger> That's even worse
1424. # [11:58] <mrbkap> What's wrong with null?
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1426. # [11:58] <mounir> mrbkap: NULL or nsnull?
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1428. # [11:59] <mrbkap> NULL
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1431. # [12:00] <mounir> as long as we have nsnull, I think we should use it
1432. # [12:00] <mounir> if it is useless, we should get ride of it
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1434. # [12:02] <mrbkap> It's so close to being useless!
1435. # [12:02] <mrbkap> But alas, no.
1436. # [12:02] <glandium> still, we should get rid of most of its use
1437. # [12:03] <dwarfcrank> The style guide in the wiki says to use NULL in new code and nsnull for consistency
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1441. # [12:14] <mwu> oh, killing nsnull is ok now?
1442. # [12:14] <mwu> we might as well switch to nullptr where appropriate then
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1452. # [12:23] <nigelb> oooh. when I quit firefox and reload, that tabs aren't reloaded. Nice.
1453. # [12:23] <nigelb> Faster this way.
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1462. # [12:36] <kanru> find . -name \*.cpp -or -name \*.h -exec sed -i -e 's/nsnull/NULL/g' {} + and land it!
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1465. # [12:44] <glandium> man VirtualAlloc/VirtualFree are awful
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1479. # [13:04] <ttaubert> what's up with tbpl not finding bugs for oranges?
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1481. # [13:06] <nthomas|away> bug 743827
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1490. # [13:17] <@roc> what we should do
1491. # [13:17] <@roc> is implement C++11 nullptr as a template
1492. # [13:17] <@roc> and use that everywhere
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1494. # [13:21] <@roc> that makes much more sense than messing around with NULL and nsnull
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1501. # [13:34] <Ms2ger> roc, filed a bug already? :)
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1503. # [13:34] <Yoric> Ms2ger: mounir: Let's move to OCaml or Haskell, then :)
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1505. # [13:34] <Yoric> (or Python)
1506. # [13:35] <Ms2ger> JS
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1508. # [13:40] <re588> anyone knows Greg Wilson's nick?
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1510. # [13:41] <ttaubert> nthomas|away: thx
1511. # [13:41] <Yoric> Ms2ger: ah, you prefer |null|?
1512. # [13:41] <Ms2ger> Definitely
1513. # [13:41] * Yoric often prefers 'a option :)
1514. # [13:42] <Yoric> (or |Maybe a|)
1515. # [13:42] <ttaubert> silly question: "In the dialog that appears, check off Android SDK Platform-tools and click on..." - that means I should select the checkbox, right?
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1517. # [13:45] <ttaubert> "check off" -> "to mark with a tick"... got it, thanks :)
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1522. # [13:52] <@roc> Ms2ger: bug 626472
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1528. # [13:57] <weichhart> hey guys
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1530. # [13:57] <weichhart> i have a question i am a software developer for sony and i am building an html5 player
1531. # [13:58] <weichhart> so my question: is there any way that firefox will play mp4 files in the near futur (like half a year)
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1533. # [13:59] <weichhart> it would be importent for me to know, because if not i need do develope an flashfall back player to and i need to tell my supervisor
1534. # [13:59] <Ms2ger> roc, in mfbt, I guess?
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1537. # [14:00] <@roc> yes
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1540. # [14:01] <@roc> weichhart: it is likely that some versions of Firefox will and others will not
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1543. # [14:02] <weichhart> well until now there is no support i guess if u tell me that in the near future there will be a support its fine with me
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1546. # [14:05] <weichhart> it would be nice if u could tell me because it would save me a lot of work if it would be possible in the next months but like i said would be nice if you can answer that question if you don't no or not allowed i understand :)
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1553. # [14:09] <re588> weichhart i suggest sending an email on mozillafoundation.org's general email (if it exists). you'll hopefully get a more specific answer there
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1556. # [14:11] <@roc> I honestly don't know
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1558. # [14:12] <@roc> won't you need Flash fallback for IE8 anyway?
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1570. # [14:16] <weichhart> well i don't care about ie8 --> user has to update to ie9 (is fine by my supervisor)
1571. # [14:17] <@roc> so you don't have any users on Windows XP?
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1602. # [14:34] <@smaug> hsivonen: oh, will you do some servo stuff
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1606. # [14:36] <hsivonen> smaug: I have one investigation task. unclear what happens after investigation
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1608. # [14:36] <hsivonen> (investigating if the HTML parser translator can be targeted to Rust in a reasonable way)
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1611. # [14:37] <@smaug> well, that should be doable
1612. # [14:37] <@smaug> (Rust has horrible syntax, but codegen should handle that)
1613. # [14:37] <hsivonen> not looking good so far. Rust tries to be pure about control structures and the translator expects to be able to use almost-goto level of dirtiness
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1625. # [14:44] <@bsmedberg> Does &hours=24 not work for TBPL any more?
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1642. # [14:57] <sheppy> I need to do some fiddling with the cache for a given page... how do I find out what the page's cache key is given the page's URL?
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1645. # [14:57] <sheppy> This is something I'd also like to document, as it doesn't appear to be. :)
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1652. # [15:04] <ttaubert> sheppy: did you look at about:cache?
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1654. # [15:04] <sheppy> ttaubert: I need to do it from code.
1655. # [15:04] <ttaubert> ah
1656. # [15:04] <sheppy> I should have asked in #extdev probably; I have an example extension that I want to have able to tweak the content of the page and let people do a refresh if they want to see the change (it's a page source editor).
1657. # [15:05] <ttaubert> well then use the nsICacheService to create a session with clientID=HTTP
1658. # [15:05] <ttaubert> and the resource's url should be the cache key
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1660. # [15:06] <sheppy> ttaubert: OK, that's what I needed to know. Thanks!
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1667. # [15:07] <sheppy> Going to try having my editor replace the contents of the cache for that page, then do a window.reload() to use the new info.
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1671. # [15:10] <ttaubert> but that works only when the web page allows its resources to be cached, right?
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1674. # [15:11] <sheppy> ttaubert: Hm.
1675. # [15:11] <sheppy> ttaubert: yeah.
1676. # [15:11] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
1677. # [15:11] <sheppy> ttaubert: any thoughts for another way to do it?
1678. # [15:11] <sheppy> I mean, for HTML changes, I could just replace the document's innerHTML...
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1681. # [15:12] <sheppy> If they edit a stylesheet, that's a scenario I'm not sure how to handle.
1682. # [15:13] <ttaubert> sheppy: you could use http-on-examine-response
1683. # [15:13] <ttaubert> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Observer_Notifications#section_8
1684. # [15:13] <Yoric> grmph, hg issues again
1685. # [15:13] <ttaubert> sheppy: so you could install a temporary observer that modifies requests
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1687. # [15:13] <sheppy> ttaubert: hm.
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1689. # [15:14] <Yoric|Poor> Could anyone give me a hand with hg?
1690. # [15:14] <Yoric|Poor> I have reached a stage at which nothing I attempt seems to have any effect.
1691. # [15:14] <Yoric|Poor> $ hg revert --all
1692. # [15:14] <Yoric|Poor> abort: uncommitted merge with no revision specified
1693. # [15:14] <Yoric|Poor> (use "hg update" or see "hg help revert")
1694. # [15:14] <sheppy> ttaubert: starting to suspect this may be a rabbit hole not worth going down for the purposes of this sample code project. :)
1695. # [15:15] <Yoric|Poor> $ hg update
1696. # [15:15] <Yoric|Poor> abort: outstanding uncommitted merges
1697. # [15:15] <ttaubert> Yoric|Poor: did you try a rollback?
1698. # [15:15] <Yoric|Poor> etc.
1699. # [15:15] <Yoric|Poor> ttaubert: No, I have never attempted this kind of thing.
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1702. # [15:15] <Yoric|Poor> help says "dangerous", so given my limited understanding of hg, I have kept safely away from it so far
1703. # [15:15] <ttaubert> sheppy: maybe :) if it's for demo purposes that may be a tad too complicated
1704. # [15:15] <Yoric|Poor> Should I try?
1705. # [15:16] <ttaubert> Yoric|Poor: what did you do before it got bricked?
1706. # [15:16] <ttaubert> hg pull + hg merge?
1707. # [15:16] <Yoric|Poor> I just realized that it was bricked.
1708. # [15:16] <Yoric|Poor> But yes, probably.
1709. # [15:16] <ttaubert> then hg rollback should just roll back the pull afaik
1710. # [15:16] <Yoric|Poor> (Windows has rebooted my computer for urgent updates in the meantime, so I have lost my history)
1711. # [15:17] <Yoric|Poor> $ hg rollback
1712. # [15:17] <Yoric|Poor> no rollback information available
1713. # [15:17] <sheppy> ttaubert: this is an example of using the Source Editor jsm. But I'm trying to make it a good overall extension example, so it's doing some extra stuff to try to be a good citizen and overall fairly handy.
1714. # [15:17] <Unfocused> Yoric|Poor: hg update --clean
1715. # [15:18] <Yoric|Poor> Unfocused: Ok, this seems to have done something.
1716. # [15:18] <ttaubert> sheppy: hm. so then even using the nsICacheService is not really a simple example with all it's async APIs and nsICacheListeners
1717. # [15:18] <Yoric|Poor> Seems to work.
1718. # [15:18] <Yoric|Poor> Unfocused: thanks.
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1720. # [15:18] <Unfocused> :)
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1723. # [15:19] <sheppy> ttaubert: No, that's true, although it's something that would be a good example of how to use async APIs, and it's fairly obvious how to make it work.
1724. # [15:19] <sheppy> ttaubert: Diving into intercepting the HTTP channel and that sort of thing gets more tricky and scares me a bit. :)
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1726. # [15:21] <ttaubert> sheppy: just found this http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/firebug/nsitraceablechannel-intercept-http-traffic/
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1728. # [15:22] <sheppy> ttaubert: so the idea here would be that I'd install a tracer, ask for a force-reload, and intercept the HTTP request, swapping in my own data instead of the stuff it would get from the server.
1729. # [15:23] <ttaubert> yes.
1730. # [15:23] <ttaubert> not sure if you need the force-reload part
1731. # [15:23] <sheppy> Would the http request even get made if it's not forcing the reload?
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1734. # [15:24] <ttaubert> looked again. there are three notifications
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1736. # [15:24] <ttaubert> server, server + cache, cache
1737. # [15:24] <sheppy> ah-ha
1738. # [15:25] <ttaubert> so you'd need to modify the response in all three casesss
1739. # [15:25] <ttaubert> -ss
1740. # [15:25] <sheppy> ttaubert: yeah.
1741. # [15:25] * sheppy will think about this and decide if it's worth it.
1742. # [15:25] <ttaubert> maybe there's an easier way to do this?
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1744. # [15:25] <sheppy> Pretty tempting to just do document.documentElement.innerHTML = newCode :)
1745. # [15:25] <ttaubert> hehe
1746. # [15:26] <sheppy> And to hell with letting people use it to fiddle with CSS.
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1748. # [15:26] <ttaubert> sounds *a lot* easier
1749. # [15:26] <sheppy> Yep :)
1750. # [15:26] <sheppy> I think I will just do that; it's good enough for this demo.
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1764. # [15:37] <Yoric> khuey: ping
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1774. # [15:48] <Enn> armenzg: do you know why -enable-accessibility is only enabled on macos 64-bit debug builds?
1775. # [15:49] <@khuey> Yoric: pong
1776. # [15:49] <Yoric> hi
1777. # [15:49] <ted2> Enn: it's not on on mac by default
1778. # [15:49] <armenzg> Enn: because we don't ship debug builds
1779. # [15:49] <ted2> but i think we wnated some builds that test it?
1780. # [15:49] <Yoric> khuey: Do you have five minutes to discuss bug 739740 ?
1781. # [15:49] <ted2> we used to have it on on the unittest builds
1782. # [15:49] <armenzg> Enn: accessibility on mac produces perf regressions
1783. # [15:50] <Enn> but why is it not enabled on 32-bit builds?
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1785. # [15:50] <@khuey> Yoric: yes
1786. # [15:50] <ted2> do we do separate 32-bit debug builds?
1787. # [15:51] <Enn> I'm referring to whatever the builds shown on the tbpl as not 64 is
1788. # [15:51] <Enn> labelled 'OS X debug'
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1792. # [15:53] <Ms2ger> Yoric, khuey, I want to get rid of dom/system entirely
1793. # [15:53] <Yoric> Ms2ger: So do you suggest putting that code yet somewhere else?
1794. # [15:53] <Ms2ger> What about hal? :)
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1803. # [16:00] <jimm> Ms2ger: is there a bug on moving that code around?
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1805. # [16:00] <Yoric> Ms2ger: Don't know what that is (at least in the context of Mozilla), but that somehow sounds scary.
1806. # [16:00] <Ms2ger> jimm, I think so
1807. # [16:00] <Ms2ger> Yoric, Hardware Abstraction Layer
1808. # [16:01] <Yoric> Ms2ger: And we have one?
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1810. # [16:01] * Yoric remembers that a number of kernels have a hal, but didn't know that mozilla-central contained such a kernel.
1811. # [16:01] <Ms2ger> Yoric, m-c/hal?
1812. # [16:01] <jimm> the way that code is setup is a little strange. the platform code sits in global functions.
1813. # [16:01] <Yoric> Gasp, we do.
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1818. # [16:03] <jimm> Ms2ger: I'm going to be adding device info interfaces for win8 and I'm tempted to put it all in dom/system.
1819. # [16:04] <jimm> which seems a better fit
1820. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> jimm, os-specific stuff doesn't belong in dom/
1821. # [16:04] <jimm> dom/system was created for for os specific stuff
1822. # [16:04] <Ms2ger> And it shouldn't have been
1823. # [16:05] <@khuey> too late, the cat is out of the bag
1824. # [16:05] * Ms2ger sticks the cat back into the bag
1825. # [16:05] <@khuey> and as usual its dougt's fault
1826. # [16:05] <Ms2ger> Did he ask mwu to review?
1827. # [16:06] <jimm> where else would you put os specific backend code that feeds dom interfaces with info?
1828. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> hal/ :)
1829. # [16:06] <jimm> that wasn't around when dom/system was created.
1830. # [16:06] <@khuey> hal didn't exist
1831. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> Sure
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1834. # [16:06] <Ms2ger> Thanks for making my point
1835. # [16:07] <jimm> hal feels more oriented toward cases where mozilla platform is the os.
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1837. # [16:07] <jimm> like with b2g
1838. # [16:07] <Ms2ger> It isn't
1839. # [16:07] <firebot> Check-in:
1840. # [16:07] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2374ebd5026f - Serge Gautherie - Bug 740769. (Cv1a) test_bug325418.js: Create separate observers, Initialize gStartTime[12] later, Use Date.now() instead of (new Date()).getTime(), "timer = null;" a bit later,
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1842. # [16:08] <firebot> Nits. r=bzbarsky.
1843. # [16:10] <jimm> well since hal came after dom/system, whoever created hal should have cleaned that up. now we're stuck with two areas doing closely related things, but in slightly different ways.
1844. # [16:11] <Yoric> I will happily follow whoever wins that fight, but please be sure to inform everybody of the winner :)
1845. # [16:12] <mwu> Ms2ger: dougt is actually moving stuff out of dom/system and into hal
1846. # [16:12] <Yoric> In the meantime, since my code is heavily oriented towards workers, it will go into dom/.
1847. # [16:12] <jimm> I don't remember a dev.planning discussion on hal, but I might have missed it.
1848. # [16:12] <froydnj> do we have a point person to direct enterprise-y people to for questions/details about esr releases?
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1850. # [16:12] <jimm> froydnj: Kev Needham
1851. # [16:13] <froydnj> jimm: thanks
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1876. # [16:34] <armenzg> Bas: ping
1877. # [16:35] <Bas> armenzg: pong
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1879. # [16:35] <armenzg> hi Bas, thanks for your reply
1880. # [16:36] <armenzg> anyone from editor or content that you could recommend talking to?
1881. # [16:36] <Bas> armenzg: Ehsan -might- know, or bz?
1882. # [16:36] <armenzg> cool
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1884. # [16:36] <Bas> Sorry I can't be of more help, but I really have -no- idea whatsoever how focus to form controls is controlled.
1885. # [16:36] <armenzg> I will CC them
1886. # [16:37] <armenzg> no worries
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1926. # [17:00] <KaiRo> glob: is the Bugzilla API your areas as well? I get api-dev.bugzilla.mozilla.org/latest/ timing out
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1928. # [17:01] <glob> KaiRo, no, and it's currently down
1929. # [17:01] <glob> KaiRo, it was accidentally moved to scl
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1931. # [17:01] <KaiRo> glob: ah, ok - any idea when it can be expected back?
1932. # [17:02] <froydnj> philor: you should start rationing stars
1933. # [17:02] <zzzzz> no m-c nightly today ?/
1934. # [17:02] <KaiRo> and isn't moving stuff to scl good - as long as it exists there?
1935. # [17:02] <glob> bug 743916
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1937. # [17:03] <KaiRo> glob: thx
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1953. # [17:12] <Bas> Anybody here know why Assertions.cpp on windows does *(volatile int*)NULL) = 123; rather than __asm { int 3; }
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1955. # [17:15] <Ms2ger> Because the latter uses assembly? :)
1956. # [17:15] <Bas> Ms2ger: But it gives much more meaningful info :)
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1958. # [17:16] <Bas> And this is platform-specific anyway, so MSVC inline ASM shouldn't be an issue.
1959. # [17:16] <Ms2ger> Mingw?
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1963. # [17:16] <Bas> Well, if minGW refuses to die a horrible death we can always put an ifdef in there for it :p
1964. # [17:16] <jfkthame> i guess the intel compiler handles msvc-style asm?
1965. # [17:17] * philor|away is now known as philor
1966. # [17:17] <Bas> I thought we no longer supported ICC?
1967. # [17:17] <jfkthame> i dunno - someone mentioned it very recently in connection with some other issue, i forget what
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1972. # [17:19] <jfkthame> but chances are it's ms-compatible w.r.t. asm syntax
1973. # [17:21] <Bas> In any case, exception 0x80000003 is so much more informative than just a random access violation.
1974. # [17:21] <mounir> am I alone to have bmo issues?
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1976. # [17:21] <philor> oh, good, a nice episode of 503 Server Too Busy, that'll cheer me right up
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1978. # [17:21] <Bas> philor: Bugzilla?
1979. # [17:22] <glob> mounir, i'm not seeing any problems on bmo
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1981. # [17:22] <philor> Bas: no, ftp.m.o, it likes to burn a half dozen jobs when it starts feeling frazzled
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1984. # [17:22] <mounir> glob: i had at least two errors while trying to post a review (something about deadlock)
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1986. # [17:23] <glob> mounir, ah, deadlocks
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1992. # [17:27] <jlebar> Quiz: Name two different wikipedia pages which differ only in their capitalization.
1993. # [17:28] <froydnj> follow-up question: guess how long it took jlebar to find a path between them this morning :)
1994. # [17:28] <jlebar> froydnj, A long time if I was using Firefox, due to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725714 !
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1997. # [17:29] <jlebar> aha, "Cat" and "CAT"
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2000. # [17:33] <@bz> ugh
2001. # [17:33] <@bz> that bug is SUCK
2002. # [17:34] <@bz> the point being that it's not a docshell issue? ;)
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2004. # [17:34] <@bz> since it breaks wikipedia?
2005. # [17:34] * @bz shall never be able to read the wiki article about cats again
2006. # [17:34] <@bz> but why the hell is this thing autocorrecting me anyway???
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2015. # [17:36] <jlebar> bz, Well, inline autocomplete is trying to be helpful.
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2018. # [17:36] <jlebar> bz, But yeah, it's in the front-end, apparently.
2019. # [17:36] <gabor> is there a way to cancel a build once I pushed it to try? so if it turns out I made a mistake I can shut it down so it won't try to compile/test on the rest of the platforms
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2022. # [17:37] <@bz> jlebar: autocomplete--
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2024. # [17:37] <jlebar> gabor, On TBPL, there's a stop sign which appears when you hover in the right place.
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2026. # [17:37] <mounir> jlebar: are you sure it's a frontend issue?
2027. # [17:38] <jlebar> mounir, Mak says inline-autocomplete is doing the case-folding.
2028. # [17:38] <mounir> oh ok
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2030. # [17:38] <mounir> input autocomplete also doesn't make the difference between "foo" and "Foo"
2031. # [17:38] <mounir> IIRC
2032. # [17:38] <gabor> jlebar++ thanks
2033. # [17:38] <mounir> but we don't force the user to pick the value
2034. # [17:38] <jlebar> mounir, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=725714#c11
2035. # [17:39] <rail> espindola: hey, trying to get clang RPM built on linux, but they fail trying to apply old-ld-hack.patch. Do we still need it?
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2037. # [17:40] <@bz> right
2038. # [17:40] <@bz> it's one thing to autocomplete case-insensitively
2039. # [17:40] <@bz> it's another to force the autocomplete result
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2041. # [17:40] <@bz> even though it's not obvious you will
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2043. # [17:43] <NeilAway> Bas: was http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/mfbt/Assertions.cpp#66 not clear enough for you?
2044. # [17:43] <espindola> rail, yes we do
2045. # [17:43] <espindola> untill we update binutils
2046. # [17:43] <espindola> rail, the patch is in hg
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2049. # [17:43] <espindola> and it applies cleanly, no?
2050. # [17:44] <rail> let me double check
2051. # [17:44] <davidb> ehsan: i'm watching you, and your silly merge.
2052. # [17:44] * davidb puts on his sheriff badge, holds chin high
2053. # [17:44] <@ehsan> davidb: thanks :)
2054. # [17:44] <Ms2ger> bz, do you know about external classes in nsDOMClassInfo?
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2058. # [17:45] <gaston> dougt: can you have a look at #739132 ? (or anyone interested in buildfixes...)
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2060. # [17:45] <@khuey> gaston: dougt is on vacation
2061. # [17:46] <gaston> that explains :)
2062. # [17:46] <davidb> we let him go on vacation!?
2063. # [17:46] <gaston> khuey: care to steal it then ?
2064. # [17:47] <@khuey> already did
2065. # [17:47] <gaston> thx :)
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2067. # [17:47] <@khuey> gaston: make sure you push that to try or something though
2068. # [17:48] <gaston> mmmh
2069. # [17:48] <gaston> ok, since i dont have a machine where NECKO_WIFI can be set
2070. # [17:48] <@khuey> gaston: I'm not certain that all the AC_DEFINE()d variables are set in that file automatically
2071. # [17:49] <gaston> was going to set checkin-needed but it might be wiser to pass it to try first
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2073. # [17:49] <rail> espindola: bah, my fault, I was building using an old patched src dirs. probably need to add a cleanup section to remove them every time...
2074. # [17:49] <@khuey> gaston: you could also just add something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/installer/Makefile.in#74 to the makefile to be safe
2075. # [17:49] <@khuey> and just push
2076. # [17:49] <@khuey> up to you
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2078. # [17:51] <gaston> i'll use try first, then that if it fails :)
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2080. # [17:51] <gaston> since anyway i cant push it myself....
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2088. # [17:54] <espindola> rail, true :-(
2089. # [17:56] <gaston> khuey: MOZ_ENABLE_PROFILER_SPS isnt added in that Makefile and i didnt get yelled at yet for #743428 :)
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2094. # [17:57] <@khuey> maybe its ok
2095. # [17:57] <@khuey> or maybe nobody uses those interfaces from js
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2115. # [18:09] <Bas> NeilAway: DebugBreak != asm int 3
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2118. # [18:12] <Waldo> nor _DebugBreak either (having fun yet?)
2119. # [18:12] <Yoric> I have code in a .jsm, which I will certainly need to recompile a gazillion time before it works.
2120. # [18:12] <Yoric> What is the best way of not having to recompile the whole tree?
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2123. # [18:13] <Bas> Waldo: Ah, good, you're here, I was wondering out loud earlier why we don't __asm { int 3; } on MSVC? As a 0x80000003 exception is generally more informative than 0xc0000005.
2124. # [18:14] * padenot|away is now known as padenot
2125. # [18:14] <ted2> anyone have a windows nightly and a debugger and have a few minutes to test something with the symbol server?
2126. # [18:14] * timA|away is now known as timA
2127. # [18:14] <ted2> specifically it's being moved to PHX and we want to ensure that the new server works
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2129. # [18:14] <Waldo> Bas: if you can find good documentation for the reasons we do anything in any particular way there, I might be able to explain :-)
2130. # [18:14] <Waldo> Bas: basically I think we just did stuff, then when we found it didn't work we did other stuff, and nobody knows the whole story
2131. # [18:15] <Bas> Waldo: *grins* That's more or less what I expected :)
2132. # [18:15] * Yoric will just ask again later.
2133. # [18:15] <Waldo> the breakpad experience, the debugger experience, possibly others affecting the final choice
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2138. # [18:15] <ted2> Bas: making things trip breakpad is pretty high on our list
2139. # [18:16] * mjessome is now known as mjessome|lunch
2140. # [18:16] <Bas> ted: int 3 doesn't do that?
2141. # [18:16] <ted2> don't know
2142. # [18:16] <ted2> feel free to test!
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2145. # [18:17] <Bas> ted2: I might at some point, I hate the fact debug aborts give me access violation exceptions :)
2146. # [18:17] <ted2> it does suck
2147. # [18:17] <Bas> Waldo: So, I've been trying to get the function(MOZ_Crash) to inline, but it looks like our tree doesn't love me including cstdio and cstdlib in that file, any objections against solely declaring the functions we need? Or will I need to look for another method?
2148. # [18:17] <ted2> there is some IsDebuggerAttached function, isn't there?
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2150. # [18:17] <ted2> presumably we could check that
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2152. # [18:17] <Waldo> Bas: do <stdio.h> and <stdlib.h> do the trick instead?
2153. # [18:17] <Bas> ted2: Even in breakpad reports it would be useful though.
2154. # [18:17] <Bas> Waldo: Probably do, you don't object to dragging those in there?
2155. # [18:18] <ted2> sure, i just don't remember what breakpad actually catches
2156. # [18:18] <Bas> ted2: *nods*, presumably we could change that if we wanted, right?
2157. # [18:18] <Waldo> Bas: I don't think so; I think glandium just used the <c*> versions because it was C++ code, not because it was strictly necessary
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2159. # [18:18] <ted2> Bas: possibly, some things are tricky
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2161. # [18:19] * @bz reads http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2012/04/10/whitespace-in-css-calculations/ and is saddened
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2163. # [18:20] <Bas> Waldo: You wouldn't consider that poluting the global namespace though? :) (it appears to work!)
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2167. # [18:21] <Waldo> Bas: erm, oh, you want that for a header
2168. # [18:21] <Waldo> hmm
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2170. # [18:22] <Bas> Waldo: Right :) printf and such things, if we want to inline :) As I said, I could just declare printf, but is some platform decided to change a modifier at some version increment, that would break.
2171. # [18:22] <Bas> *if
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2174. # [18:23] <glandium> Waldo: indeed (as to why i used <c*>
2175. # [18:23] <glandium> )
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2178. # [18:24] <dietrich> bsmedberg: ping
2179. # [18:24] <@bsmedberg> dietrich:
2180. # [18:24] <dietrich> bsmedberg: hey, do you know when you can review bug 278860? or someone we can delegate it to?
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2183. # [18:25] <@bsmedberg> dietrich: it's on my list, but not a super-high priority
2184. # [18:25] <@bsmedberg> I'd be happy for mossop or dolske to review it, I think they've both been hanging around that code recently
2185. # [18:25] <Waldo> it all makes sense now!
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2187. # [18:25] <dietrich> bsmedberg: ok, thanks. we'll have them do it.
2188. # [18:25] <sheppy> Waldo: That's a sure sign of mental instability.
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2191. # [18:26] <dholbert> bjacob, m-i bustage
2192. # [18:27] <bjacob> dholbert: argh
2193. # [18:27] <Mavericks> sheppy: haha
2194. # [18:27] <bjacob> dholbert: looking
2195. # [18:27] <dholbert> bjacob, (looks like it's from a new build warning in a warnings-as-errors-enabled directory)
2196. # [18:27] <Mavericks> Waldo: no offense
2197. # [18:27] <bjacob> dholbert: looking
2198. # [18:27] <Waldo> Bas: what's the reason the tree doesn't love including stdio/cstdlib?
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2200. # [18:27] <Bas> waldo: Oh, stdio.h is just fine.
2201. # [18:27] <Waldo> Mavericks: offense was taken! I demand an apology! :-P
2202. # [18:27] <Bas> I'm just concerned about poluting the global namespace.
2203. # [18:28] <Bas> On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if in virtually every file -something- drags in stdio.h
2204. # [18:28] <Mavericks> Waldo: hehe
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2207. # [18:28] <Waldo> Bas: yeah, that's about what I tend to think; I think we just use the includes, then if someone complains we can backtrack
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2209. # [18:29] <Bas> Waldo: Excellent, thanks, I'll make MOZ_Assert and MOZ_Crash two MOZ_ALWAYS_INLINE functions then.
2210. # [18:29] <bjacob> dholbert: got it, checking if there's something else
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2214. # [18:31] <bjacob> dholbert: pushed fix
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2216. # [18:31] <Waldo> Bas: well, actually...much as I despise macros generally, wouldn't the debugger experience be better here if those were macros? because then you don't halt inside an irrelevant method, and all that
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2219. # [18:32] <Bas> Waldo: In optimized builds shouldn't __forceinline take care of that?
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2222. # [18:33] <Waldo> Bas: that doesn't change how debugging info gets generated for that code, does it? it'll still point off to the location of the MOZ_Assert method's lines of code
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2225. # [18:33] <Bas> Waldo: Yeah, probably I guess
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2227. # [18:33] <Bas> I'm not sure, I don't spend that much time debugging opt builds :)
2228. # [18:34] <Waldo> I suspect the same debug info gets generated for both opt and debug on the point
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2232. # [18:36] <dholbert> bjacob, cool
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2235. # [18:36] <NeilAway> Bas: hmm, ok, so how does not being inline make a difference?
2236. # [18:37] <Bas> NeilAway: It means I can't use those functions in code I want to be able to build stand alone, and easier debugging.
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2238. # [18:37] <NeilAway> Bas: sorry, I mean DebugBreak vs. asm int 3
2239. # [18:38] <Waldo> Bas: for comparison, this is how webkit does it http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1562486
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2241. # [18:38] <Bas> *nods
2242. # [18:38] <Waldo> more complex things like message-printing in OOL functions, the crashing stuff directly inline in the macros
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2244. # [18:39] <Waldo> it looks like their scheme doesn't involve depending on any more than just <stddef.h>, the printing stuff devolving to OOL stuff that doesn't drag in header dependencies
2245. # [18:40] <@bz> gah
2246. # [18:40] <@bz> bzapi still broken? :(
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2248. # [18:41] <romaxa> bsmedberg: Hi, I've rechecked all process types checks, replaced all GetType == -> IsProcessType function wrapper, and minimized original patch which is eanough for basic IPC embedding initialization and rendering functionality. also I wrapped one common check into XRE_IsProfileProcess, is that close to what you asked?
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2251. # [18:42] <@bsmedberg> I'll have to check, but it sounds better
2252. # [18:42] * @bz wonders whether we have a bug on the bzapi thing
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2256. # [18:43] <ted2> bsmedberg: do you have time to test the new symbol server in PHX? (or delegate to someone?)
2257. # [18:43] <ted2> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688250#c4
2258. # [18:44] <@bsmedberg> ted2: ok, what kind of testing are you looking for, just a "does it load in a browser" check or actually trying with MSVC?
2259. # [18:44] <ted2> i think testing it with MSVC would be good
2260. # [18:44] <ted2> just debug a nightly and verify that you get symbols
2261. # [18:44] <@bsmedberg> yeah ok
2262. # [18:44] <ted2> just need to stick that line in your hosts file
2263. # [18:44] <Bas> NeilAway: Well, the argument listed there is that the debugger can't recover the stack, not using that function would remove any non-xul functions from the top of the stack.
2264. # [18:45] * @bsmedberg goes to figure out where the hosts file lives on Windows
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2266. # [18:45] <ted2> some goofy place in system32
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2268. # [18:45] <ted2> bsmedberg: ping jason on #breakpad when you're done (or reply in bug)
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2271. # [18:47] <Bas> Waldo: I'm not sure what 'WTFReportAssertionFailure' does :p
2272. # [18:47] <Bas> Or is
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2274. # [18:47] <@bz> Bas: looks like a webkitism
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2276. # [18:48] <Bas> waldo: Yeah, so building with including stdio.h and stdlib.h just completed, and works just fine.
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2278. # [18:48] <Waldo> Bas: OOL function, I don't know the details either, but probably just prints the assertion message more or less :-)
2279. # [18:48] <Bas> I'm inclined to just either make these inline functions, or macro's while dragging in those headers, whatever you prefer.
2280. # [18:48] <Waldo> http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/Source/WTF/wtf has Assertions.h and Assertions.cpp if you really care
2281. # [18:48] <taras> ttaubert: can you come hang out on #perf?
2282. # [18:48] <taras> ie idle there
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2287. # [18:50] <Bas> Waldo: Well, all I really want to do is generate good stack traces and not depend on any lib that isn't tiny and can be statically linked in to any build :)
2288. # [18:50] <Bas> For now it seems that that means going fully inline :)
2289. # [18:50] <Bas> (or macros)
2290. # [18:50] <Waldo> Bas: let's make 'em macros, put the complex stuff like message printing or whatever in out-of-line methods
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2292. # [18:51] <Waldo> not ideal, but things often aren't
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2296. # [18:52] <Bas> Waldo: *nods* no objections to a non-all-caps macro then?
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2298. # [18:52] <Bas> In this particular case.
2299. # [18:53] <Waldo> Bas: I think an all-caps macro is exactly the right way to spell it
2300. # [18:53] <Bas> Waldo: Our existing functions are MOZ_Crash
2301. # [18:53] <Bas> Not MOZ_CRASH
2302. # [18:53] <Waldo> Bas: the name, spelled that way, is because it wasn't a macro
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2304. # [18:53] <Waldo> for a macro, MOZ_CRASH(msg) is good
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2309. # [18:54] <Bas> waldo: Right, but we want existing calls to go to MOZ_CRASH inline though right? Want me to search/replace the entire tree?
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2311. # [18:54] <Waldo> Bas: yeah; there aren't many, I'm sure of that
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2313. # [18:54] <Waldo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=MOZ_Crash&case=on&find=&findi=&;filter=^[^\0]*%24&hitlimit=&tree=mozilla-central found 5 lines in 3 files :-)
2314. # [18:54] <Bas> Waldo: So one more thing, you want crash to allow a message as well then?
2315. # [18:54] <Bas> Heh :)
2316. # [18:55] * khuey|away is now known as khuey
2317. # [18:55] <Waldo> Bas: erm, oops, sorry, thought it was taking a message now, if it doesn't, don't need to make it take one
2318. # [18:55] <Bas> Ok :)
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2321. # [18:58] <Bas> Waldo: MOZ_ASSERT is a little trickier, as it already exists, should I rename MOZ_Assert to something like MOZ_EXECUTE_ASSERT or something?
2322. # [18:58] * davidb wonders why mac builds are slow on tbpl
2323. # [18:59] <gavin> Bas: MOZ_DIE_DIE_DIE
2324. # [18:59] <Waldo> Bas: make MOZ_Assert's entire body just be MOZ_ASSERT(...)?
2325. # [18:59] <Waldo> (in theory I'm not opposed to removing MOZ_Assert, but I think I'd want to think about it slightly more before doing it)
2326. # [19:00] <Waldo> well, hm, making that the body wouldn't work, would it
2327. # [19:00] <Bas> Waldo: Hrm, sorry for being thick, I don't understand what you mean :) MOZ_ASSERT jumps through a bunch of macro magic before actually calling MOZ_Assert()
2328. # [19:00] <Waldo> no worries, I'm carrying on a couple different conversations at once, probably not helping matters
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2332. # [19:03] <Waldo> Bas: so, MOZ_ASSERT(...) would expand to some sequence of statements ending with MOZ_CRASH() in debug builds (in opt builds expanding to ((void)0)); MOZ_Assert would be a standalone method whose body would be those same statements, I think
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2337. # [19:05] <Bas> waldo: So MOZ_Assert an inline method, MOZ_ASSERT_HELPER1 and MOZ_ASSERT_HELPER2 modified to call MOZ_CRASH directly and output debug info through an OOL inline method?
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2340. # [19:06] <Waldo> Bas: if MOZ_ASSERT is a macro that expands to inline code, I don't see that MOZ_Assert needs to be inline at all; we can just tell people to use MOZ_ASSERT if they want inline assertions
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2342. # [19:06] <Bas> Waldo: Ah, ok, fair enough.
2343. # [19:06] <Bas> Understood.
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2345. # [19:07] <Yoric> dougt: ping
2346. # [19:07] <Waldo> Bas: M_A_H should call MOZ_CRASH() after outputting via an OOL method (whether inline or not, I don't think matters much -- probably OOL so as not to bloat), yes
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2350. # [19:07] <Waldo> the idea of having an assertion method that doesn't expand to inline code to assert seems kind of anachronistic
2351. # [19:08] <Bas> Waldo: BTW, *looks at m-c/js/src/assembler/wtf/Assertions.h* looks like the webkit code right there :)
2352. # [19:08] <Waldo> Bas: yeah, we forked a bit of stuff to use their assembler in the methodjit; not sure if ionmonkey is using it or not
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2354. # [19:09] <Bas> Heh :)
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2357. # [19:10] <Yoric> gavin: ping
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2366. # [19:12] <zzzzz> bsmedberg: if you haven't found it by now: C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
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2371. # [19:14] <Ms2ger> bz, there's a bug about bzapi
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2378. # [19:15] <@bz> Ms2ger: cool, thanks
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2392. # [19:20] <glandium> Bas: note the whole thing is in a #if 0
2393. # [19:20] <glandium> Bas: and that i removed Assertions.cpp
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2399. # [19:21] <glandium> or so I thought...
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2402. # [19:24] <glandium> Bas: ah, the file is still there, but not built. The file from mfbt is used, instead
2403. # [19:24] <glandium> (both having the same name)
2404. # [19:24] <glandium> we could get rid of wtf/Assertions.cpp, and clean up wtf/Assertions.h
2405. # [19:25] <davidb> sgautherie: I think you have unstarred orange
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2413. # [19:30] <sgautherie> davidb: I would be surprised not to have some.
2414. # [19:30] <sgautherie> It looks like TBPL is not reporting bug suggestions anymore :-/
2415. # [19:31] <davidb> sgautherie: yeah i wondered about that too
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2418. # [19:35] <sicking> mounir: ping
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2421. # [19:37] <Waldo> okay, the guy in http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6373 is seriously awesome
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2423. # [19:39] <gaston> lucky one
2424. # [19:39] <Ms2ger> The tags on http://quotes.burntelectrons.org/6368 are good
2425. # [19:40] <Bas> glandium: Oh, I don't mind, just thought it was a nice coincidence :)
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2429. # [19:40] <glandium> Bas: it was actually an annoying one. Our build system doesn't like multiple files with the same name
2430. # [19:41] * edransch-lunch is now known as edransch
2431. # [19:41] <Bas> Heh. Really?
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2434. # [19:41] <Waldo> it's because of things like -I. and -I$(srcdir) and such in the command lines built up when compiling things
2435. # [19:41] <Waldo> total idiocy
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2437. # [19:42] <Waldo> dependencies? DEPEND ON ALL THE HEADERS
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2440. # [19:43] <Bas> Waldo: Ah, that makes even MSBuild sound sane :p
2441. # [19:44] <jlebar> philor, btw, we're in the process of re-doing all of <iframe mozbrowser> (again), which is why I'm ignoring the failures you keep starring.
2442. # [19:44] <Waldo> I am somewhat exaggerating, but not too much, alas
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2444. # [19:44] <jdm> man, that picture of atul is begging to become a meme
2445. # [19:44] <Waldo> which what picture?
2446. # [19:44] <jdm> Waldo: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zdxsWoveq0k/T4M4n4_HfnI/AAAAAAAABKw/oGF-8majhZo/s640/webmaker.jpg
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2448. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> jlebar, go ahead and disable the test already
2449. # [19:45] <jlebar> Ms2ger, It's not *that* frequent, is it?
2450. # [19:45] <jlebar> b2g is still relying on the API as-is, for now...
2451. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> If you don't care about the result...
2452. # [19:46] <jlebar> Well, I don't care about the randomoranges.
2453. # [19:46] <jlebar> Now, if I had a way to disable *those*... :D
2454. # [19:46] <Waldo> jdm++
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2457. # [19:47] <derf> Bas: Well, MSVC requires unique source file names, too.
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2459. # [19:47] <philor> jlebar: luckily, I don't notice any one particular set of ignoring anyway, so it wasn't worrying me
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2461. # [19:48] <mounir> sicking: pong
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2464. # [19:48] <sicking> mounir: i'm writing up what the API for orientation looks like, can you review once i'm done?
2465. # [19:48] <Bas> derf: Only within a single project, right? Not within a single solution.
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2467. # [19:49] <mounir> sicking: sure
2468. # [19:49] <mounir> today?
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2470. # [19:50] <sicking> mounir: yeah
2471. # [19:50] <sicking> when are you leaving?
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2474. # [19:51] <derf> Bas: That hardly matters if your project is, for example, "all of libxul".
2475. # [19:51] <mounir> sicking: I will stay at home so I can try to have a look regularly but don't expect a very quick reaction
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2478. # [19:52] <sicking> mounir: cool
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2481. # [19:52] <derf> (and the actual problems show up if you use the same directory for object files, because it just dumps everything in there flat, with no directory structure)
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2485. # [19:55] <@bsmedberg> MattN: ping
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2489. # [19:56] <MattN> bsmedberg: pong
2490. # [19:56] <@bsmedberg> MattN: how do you feel about moving most of the profile-reset logic to a new file out of nsAppRunner.cpp? That file is already pretty huge.
2491. # [19:57] <MattN> I think that's a good idea
2492. # [19:57] <MattN> I was thinking the same thing but wasn't sure of a good place
2493. # [19:58] <@bsmedberg> toolkit/xre/ProfileReset.cpp
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2495. # [19:59] <MattN> ok, so just add a header file and a cpp there and include it in nsAppRunner.cpp, right?
2496. # [19:59] <@bsmedberg> yeah
2497. # [20:00] <@bsmedberg> add it to toolkit/xre/Makefile.in of course
2498. # [20:00] <MattN> yeah
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2501. # [20:02] <@khuey> mmm
2502. # [20:02] <@khuey> mhoye is making me want to send my "github considered harmful" email
2503. # [20:02] <glandium> khuey: ?
2504. # [20:02] <Ms2ger> Walled garden, &c.
2505. # [20:02] <@khuey> dev-planning
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2508. # [20:03] <froydnj> khuey: but it's a *distributed* walled garden
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2510. # [20:03] <Ms2ger> froydnj, it isn't
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2514. # [20:04] <MattN> bsmedberg: Any remaining major problems with the patch so far?
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2516. # [20:04] <taras> but how will hipsters contribute without github?
2517. # [20:04] <@bsmedberg> MattN: putting comments in, nothing major
2518. # [20:05] <froydnj> real hipsters still use arch
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2522. # [20:05] <MattN> thanks
2523. # [20:05] <taras> where would we be without the developers in tight jeans + funny hats mindshare
2524. # [20:06] <humph> taras: are you hating on github now?
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2526. # [20:06] <humph> oh, it's khuey
2527. # [20:06] <@khuey> taras++
2528. # [20:06] <glandium> khuey: ah, so s/github/github issue tracker/
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2531. # [20:07] <@bsmedberg> well even more nuanced than that, github issue tracker *for mozilla projects*
2532. # [20:07] <humph> github's issue tracker is nothing special
2533. # [20:07] <humph> people just like pull requests
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2536. # [20:08] <glandium> humph: one nice thing with it is that you can close an issue with a git commit. It's about time we get that for bugzilla
2537. # [20:08] <humph> yeah
2538. # [20:10] <Waldo> taras: enjoying some front-porch hacking? :-)
2539. # [20:10] <taras> Waldo: very much so
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2541. # [20:11] <Yoric> Actually, the github issue tracker is much less powerful than bz.
2542. # [20:11] <humph> yeah
2543. # [20:11] <Yoric> But yes, pull requests are quite nice, as are the ability to automatically hyperlink commits and issues.
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2552. # [20:13] <gavin> bugzilla automatically hyperlinks bug #s, fwiw :)
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2555. # [20:13] <@smaug> and comments and attachments ...
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2560. # [20:16] <tanvi> I have a line in my patch that I didn't write and isn't currently in mxr. I think someone must have committed a change and backed it out around the end of March. We don't have a web interface that shows revision history to files do we?
2561. # [20:16] <tanvi> We have to revert from tip to the build where we think the change was made, and then do an hg blame to figure out who made the changes?
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2563. # [20:17] <humph> mxr has a blame link
2564. # [20:17] <humph> top right
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2569. # [20:18] <jrmuizel> espindola: ping
2570. # [20:18] <tanvi> but if a line was inserted and then removed (hence no longer in mxr), it wouldn't show up
2571. # [20:19] <espindola> jrmuizel, pong
2572. # [20:19] <jrmuizel> espindola: does c++ have anything like c99's 'extern inline'?
2573. # [20:19] <Bas> derf: You just have a bunch of static lib projects and one DLL project? Shoving all of libxul into a single project sounds silly.
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2576. # [20:21] <@smaug> tanvi: sure it shows up in some revision
2577. # [20:21] <espindola> jrmuizel, that is a default function
2578. # [20:21] <espindola> do you mean a plain inline?
2579. # [20:21] <espindola> that is, a available_externally?
2580. # [20:21] <espindola> no for normal functions
2581. # [20:21] <derf> Bas: All I know is that all the .c files in media/libvorbis/lib have vorbis_ prefixed to them because of conflicts with things like info.c and block.c.
2582. # [20:21] <espindola> I think you can get it with templates
2583. # [20:22] <espindola> by using explicit instantiantion definitions and declarations
2584. # [20:22] <jrmuizel> basically I want a function that can be inlined (link_once) but is guaranteed to be emitted in every file
2585. # [20:22] <jrmuizel> espindola: hmm
2586. # [20:22] <Bas> derf: Probably just someone who didn't know how to build up a visual studio solution :)
2587. # [20:22] <espindola> jrmuizel, a hidden function?
2588. # [20:22] <derf> That someone was doublec.
2589. # [20:22] <espindola> you want a symbol in every file
2590. # [20:22] <tanvi> ah, i see - didn't realize there was a log and blame on the type right corner. that will make life easier :) thanks smaug and humph
2591. # [20:22] <froydnj> jrmuizel: I think you need templates to do what you want
2592. # [20:23] <Bas> derf: We don't compile anything there with MSBuild, do we?
2593. # [20:23] <espindola> in the final object, you want 1 or n copies?
2594. # [20:23] <jrmuizel> espindola: basically I have an inline function written in c++ in some c++ header, I want to be able to call it from c
2595. # [20:23] <espindola> (note that with c99 extern inline you would get multiple definitions)
2596. # [20:23] <fabrice> From chrome, I'm opening a new tab with browserDOMWindow.openURI(...). What's the best way to figure when it's ready to dispatch events? (.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded") never fires)
2597. # [20:23] <jrmuizel> espindola: ah, didn't know that
2598. # [20:23] <@ehsan> bz: ping
2599. # [20:23] <@smaug> tanvi: and if you want to make mxr to show some version, look at bottom of the page
2600. # [20:23] <jrmuizel> so yeah c99 might not even have what I want
2601. # [20:24] <jrmuizel> espindola: I think I'll just work around the problem
2602. # [20:24] * artur_ is now known as artur
2603. # [20:24] <tanvi> awesome :)
2604. # [20:24] <espindola> jrmuizel, is the function c++. It will fail to parse in c++ mode ,no?
2605. # [20:25] <jrmuizel> espindola: yes, but I was just going to have another header that used the same name for c
2606. # [20:25] <espindola> s/in c++ mode/ in c mode/
2607. # [20:25] <jrmuizel> i.e. the 'c' version would be out-of-line
2608. # [20:26] <espindola> jrmuizel, ah, that is easier
2609. # [20:26] <espindola> in a foo.cpp file
2610. # [20:26] <espindola> have
2611. # [20:26] <espindola> extern "C" c_version_of_foo() {foo(); }
2612. # [20:26] <espindola> (with return types and arguments...)
2613. # [20:26] <jrmuizel> espindola: yeah, that's what I decided to do
2614. # [20:27] <espindola> cool
2615. # [20:27] <espindola> if it needs to be inlined into C code (without LTO) you would need to translate it to a C/C++ subset
2616. # [20:28] <jrmuizel> yeah
2617. # [20:28] <Bas> waldo: Ugh, we have stuff like MOZ_ASSERT_IF relying on MOZ_ASSERT resolving to a single call (i.e. doing ((cond) ? MOZ_ASSERT(expr) : ((void)0))
2618. # [20:28] <Bas> Don't think you can shove a do { } while (0) in there
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2620. # [20:28] <Bas> But I'll just modify it.
2621. # [20:29] <Waldo> Bas: yeah, we can just modify
2622. # [20:29] <@bz> gah
2623. # [20:29] <@bz> bugzilla diff broken again
2624. # [20:29] <@bz> lovely
2625. # [20:29] <Waldo> do { if ((cond)) MOZ_ASSERT(expr); } while (0)
2626. # [20:29] <Bas> Waldo: That's exactly what I just typed :)
2627. # [20:30] <Mark_Capella> is autoland sleeping again?
2628. # [20:30] <Waldo> coolio
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2630. # [20:30] <Waldo> great minds think alike!
2631. # [20:30] <@bz> waldo: compiler warning with clang
2632. # [20:30] <lsblakk> Mark_Capella: the bugzilla api is down
2633. # [20:30] <@bz> waldo: just fyi
2634. # [20:30] <Mark_Capella> yack
2635. # [20:30] <Waldo> bz: whyso?
2636. # [20:30] <@bz> waldo: it warns on "if ((a == b))"
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2638. # [20:30] <@bz> waldo: suggesting that either one of the '=' be removed or the extra parens be removed
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2640. # [20:31] <Waldo> ...wow
2641. # [20:31] <@bz> waldo: it's the suck
2642. # [20:31] <@khuey> bz: rofl
2643. # [20:31] <Waldo> well, we could do |if ((cond) && 1)| or whatever
2644. # [20:31] * Waldo goes to test this warning
2645. # [20:31] <@bz> though possibly only when ccache is involved
2646. # [20:31] <@bz> as in, it might be smart about macro expansion here
2647. # [20:31] <Waldo> alternatively, I bet we can ask the clang developers to get rid of the warning when it's from code generated through macros
2648. # [20:31] <@bz> but gets confused when compiling from ccache, where the macro is already expanded
2649. # [20:31] <Waldo> they have the hooks for some clever conditioning
2650. # [20:32] <mjessome> Mark_Capella: bzapi is down, so it's blocking us (and several other things) for the time being.
2651. # [20:32] <mjessome> ah, sorry; just saw lsblakk already got to it
2652. # [20:32] <Mark_Capella> mjessome: thanks .. does regular HG push work still then?
2653. # [20:32] <@bz> waldo: of course given the choice between no warnings or ccache....
2654. # [20:32] <@bz> waldo: I'm choosing ccache. ;)
2655. # [20:33] <mjessome> Mark_Capella: yes, it does. Just autoland isnt working since we can't get the jobs from bugzilla into our system.
2656. # [20:33] <@bz> is it worth filing bugs about bugzilla diff lying through its teeth?
2657. # [20:33] <Mark_Capella> mjessome: thanks .. (autoland is the bomb)
2658. # [20:33] <Waldo> bz: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1562651 doesn't warn for me; what am I doing wrong?
2659. # [20:33] <Waldo> (this with clang from a month or two ago, I believe)
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2661. # [20:34] <mjessome> Mark_Capella: If you mean the bomb to be a good thing, then thanks & I'm glad you like it! Otherwise... I have nothing to do with the project.
2662. # [20:34] <Bas> Waldo: Oh no.. JS_FLOOR_LOG2W does it too! Argh :)
2663. # [20:34] <sicking> mounir: ok, let me know if this is correct: https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/ScreenOrientation
2664. # [20:34] <Mark_Capella> B) good thing
2665. # [20:35] <@bz> waldo: not sure; lemme test
2666. # [20:35] <Bas> And not in a way that I can fix :s
2667. # [20:35] <Bas> Easily at least.
2668. # [20:35] <@bz> waldo: doesn't warn for me either
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2670. # [20:35] <@bz> waldo: I definitely get warnings about it building mozilla, though
2671. # [20:35] <@bz> waldo: one sec
2672. # [20:36] <Waldo> reproducible testcase would be helpful, as I'm sure you're aware :-D
2673. # [20:36] <Waldo> Bas: yeah, there might be a short tail of functions that think MOZ_ASSERT expands to an expression
2674. # [20:36] <Bas> Waldo: Warns in MSVC, fwiw.
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2676. # [20:37] <Waldo> Bas: worse comes to worst, we can use the gcc ({ }) extension so we don't break existing people, or something
2677. # [20:37] * jhammel is now known as jhammel|lunch
2678. # [20:37] <Bas> Waldo: Think I should create a separate version that expands to an expression?
2679. # [20:37] <Waldo> but I'm inclined not to worry for now
2680. # [20:37] <Waldo> Bas: I'd say don't bother ^
2681. # [20:37] <Bas> Waldo: Kill the assert there, you mean?
2682. # [20:37] <jhford-work> i wonder what the 4200MB of heap-unclassified memory my firefox is using is
2683. # [20:38] <@bz> ../../../mozilla/js/xpconnect/src/XPCMaps.h:384:31: warning: equality comparison with extraneous parentheses [-Wparentheses-equality]
2684. # [20:38] <@bz> if (((entry)->keyHash == 0))
2685. # [20:38] <@bz> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^~~~
2686. # [20:38] <@bz> ../../../mozilla/js/xpconnect/src/XPCMaps.h:384:31: note: remove extraneous parentheses around the comparison to silence this warning
2687. # [20:38] <@bz> if (((entry)->keyHash == 0))
2688. # [20:38] <@bz> ~ ^ ~
2689. # [20:38] <@bz> ../../../mozilla/js/xpconnect/src/XPCMaps.h:384:31: note: use '=' to turn this equality comparison into an assignment
2690. # [20:38] <@bz> if (((entry)->keyHash == 0))
2691. # [20:38] <@bz> ^~
2692. # [20:38] <@bz> =
2693. # [20:38] <Bas> jhford-work: Windows 7?
2694. # [20:38] <jhford> os x
2695. # [20:38] <@bz> waldo: one sec
2696. # [20:38] <Waldo> hm, sec
2697. # [20:38] <Bas> No idea then. Some kind of image memory or something I suppose.
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2699. # [20:38] <jhford> i *thing* this only happens after i've launched a complex flash thing
2700. # [20:38] <jhford> err, think
2701. # [20:38] <@bz> waldo: it constant-folded in your case before doing that check
2702. # [20:38] <sicking> mounir: oh, i had another question too. In bug 741744, why do we allow the filepicker to be displayed from setTimeout??!
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2706. # [20:38] <@bz> waldo: try taking out the const
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2708. # [20:39] <jhford> i clicked more verbose, and it isn't a memory thing
2709. # [20:39] <Waldo> Bas: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?string=JS_FLOOR_LOG2W suggests maybe we should just remove it
2710. # [20:39] <jhford> err, image memory
2711. # [20:40] * Waldo investigates whether that's possible
2712. # [20:40] <jhford> oh, and 120% cpu
2713. # [20:40] <jhford> yesterday the same thing happened, except that I had a 54GB (yes, gig) swap file that went away when i killed firefox
2714. # [20:41] <Waldo> hm, no
2715. # [20:41] <Waldo> it's used via a macro that uses it
2716. # [20:41] <Waldo> Bas: we should make those macros into |static MOZ_ALWAYS_INLINE| functions
2717. # [20:41] <Waldo> at this point there's well-established precedent for the conversion
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2719. # [20:42] <Waldo> bz: hum, yes, that makes it warn
2720. # [20:42] * Waldo tries going through some macros
2721. # [20:42] <@bz> waldo: I bet they have the macro thing
2722. # [20:42] <@smaug> taras: cycle collection in middle of tab switch?
2723. # [20:43] <@bz> waldo: and it's just that ccache confuses it
2724. # [20:43] <Bas> Waldo: static seems redundant in that case? Doesn't inline make the symbol be local to the compile unit? So, erm, basically, what we probably want then is keep exactly what we have in the tree right now, except make them MOZ_ALWAYS_INLINE and inline them, right?
2725. # [20:43] <Waldo> bz: yes, indeed they do
2726. # [20:43] <Waldo> Bas: C compatibility; you need static for C
2727. # [20:43] <Bas> Waldo: Doh, of course :)
2728. # [20:43] <Bas> At least someone's paying attention ;)
2729. # [20:44] <mounir> sicking: that's a bug in the implementation
2730. # [20:44] <mounir> sicking: oh... maybe not what I thought
2731. # [20:44] <mounir> actually
2732. # [20:44] <Waldo> Bas: I so want to not have any C code in the tree (and almost put that in a comment in the nullptr bug, if you're CC'd on that), although that wouldn't affect jsapi.h and JS embedder C-ness
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2734. # [20:45] <Bas> Heh :) Hmm, no C :P
2735. # [20:45] <Waldo> right now it's libffi, the js debugger (the old one), and like two or three other things, if I remember right
2736. # [20:45] <Waldo> well, and NSPR/NSS, but those are third-party code effectively
2737. # [20:45] <derf> Waldo: All the media codecs.
2738. # [20:45] <Waldo> and those aren't going to use mfbt stuff for some time, if ever
2739. # [20:46] <taras> smaug: yup
2740. # [20:46] <@bz> derf: those are third-party too
2741. # [20:46] <Waldo> derf: third-party code unlikely to use mfbt stuff, tho, right?
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2743. # [20:46] <derf> Waldo: With the possible exception of the stdint crap.
2744. # [20:46] <Bas> Waldo: I'd so like to see nspr be dumped for a portability layer that isn't outdated back to Win2K
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2746. # [20:46] <Waldo> I think the stdint files (and inttypes when I finish it) can be kept clean enough for that use, without too much trouble
2747. # [20:47] <Bas> Or Win98, in a lot of cases.
2748. # [20:47] <Waldo> Bas: quite fair
2749. # [20:47] <@smaug> taras: that is just very bad luck
2750. # [20:47] <@smaug> taras: it can't happen in general cases
2751. # [20:47] * jwir3 is now known as jwir3|lunch
2752. # [20:47] <taras> smaug: sure it can
2753. # [20:47] <taras> hold down ctrl+tab
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2755. # [20:48] <@smaug> well, sure that way
2756. # [20:48] <Bas> Now that I think of NSPR, I still have a patch lying around for NSPR that makes condition variables use SOAW since we have Win2K everywhere. Made it a lot faster.
2757. # [20:48] <@smaug> we must run CC at some point
2758. # [20:48] <mkaply> Question: Haven't done a patch in a while. I have one reviewed. I have built it locally and it works. Should I still land against the try server? And is bugzilla [autoland-try] the easiest way to do that?
2759. # [20:48] <taras> smaug: yeah, but atm i get a hard pause
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2761. # [20:48] <lsblakk> mkaply: it would be if bz api was working right now
2762. # [20:48] <taras> every tabstrip iteration
2763. # [20:48] <taras> or every few
2764. # [20:48] <jtcranmer> Bas: I suppose you'd have to start by making a list of places that we use NSPR for and a roadmap for deleting those uses
2765. # [20:48] <taras> from cc, gc, session-restore
2766. # [20:48] <lsblakk> mkaply: so for now, you have to push to hg try yourself
2767. # [20:49] <@smaug> taras: really, from CC?
2768. # [20:49] <taras> which is obviously way too often
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2770. # [20:49] <@smaug> taras: how long?
2771. # [20:49] <Bas> jtcranmer: Yeah, updating NSPR might be easier, who knows :s
2772. # [20:49] <taras> smaug: i can doublecheck
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2774. # [20:49] <taras> and get back to you
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2777. # [20:49] <armenzg> anyone know how to change the mouse cursor position through the command line on windows?
2778. # [20:49] <jtcranmer> Bas: e.g., get a better logging library :-)
2779. # [20:49] * Mook_as wonders if mozilla's still using nspr's win9x mode instead of the winnt code
2780. # [20:50] <sicking> smaug: still awake?
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2782. # [20:50] <Bas> jtcranmer: Heh :) I prefer log() << a << " is out of bounds."; Qt style logging.
2783. # [20:50] <@smaug> taras: since if you get anything higher than 5-10ms, there is a leak
2784. # [20:50] <@smaug> and CC happens async, so it should allow user events to be processed
2785. # [20:50] <@smaug> ofc, we should get that 5-10ms lower
2786. # [20:50] <@smaug> sicking: yup
2787. # [20:50] <@smaug> sicking: hey, it is not even 10pm here
2788. # [20:51] <jtcranmer> Bas: we have a wide agreement that we need a better logging API
2789. # [20:51] <jtcranmer> after that, no agreement
2790. # [20:51] <Bas> jtcranmer: We use something like what I just wrote in Azure.
2791. # [20:51] <Bas> But I have no illusion that I can get that adopted :p
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2793. # [20:52] <jtcranmer> (largely because we can't agree if logging wants to be JS-with-C++ hooks, C++-with-JS hooks, XPCOM, JS-only, or C++-only)
2794. # [20:52] <Bas> jtcranmer: Next step is to add a release-logging feature and have that added to crash reports, yay! :)
2795. # [20:52] <jtcranmer> hey, most NSPR logging is enabled in release builds
2796. # [20:52] <jtcranmer> it's just (almost) impossible to enable it without setting environment variables and restarting
2797. # [20:52] * Bas nods.
2798. # [20:53] <jtcranmer> the "almost" because I found a hack that let me do it
2799. # [20:53] <sicking> smaug: ok, i finally understand the problem. So the problem is that when the original node goes away, we kill the original mutationreceiver, which tears down all transient receivers
2800. # [20:53] <Bas> Heh, change an in-memory value?
2801. # [20:53] <@smaug> sicking: yes
2802. # [20:53] <@smaug> sicking: and the easiest way to fix is to keep the original node alive
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2804. # [20:53] <jtcranmer> if you request a PR_NewLogModule, it gives you a struct which turns out to be a singly-linked list of all log modules
2805. # [20:53] <@smaug> there is ofc other ways to fix the problem
2806. # [20:53] <Bas> Hah
2807. # [20:53] <jtcranmer> one of the entries in the struct is the log level
2808. # [20:54] <@smaug> like copy all the state from the original observer
2809. # [20:54] <Bas> Interesting.
2810. # [20:54] <sicking> smaug: it seems unfortunate to keep the original node alive, rather than keeping the original mutation observer alive
2811. # [20:54] <@smaug> sicking: it is very rare case that GC/CC happens during microtask
2812. # [20:54] <@smaug> CC is async
2813. # [20:54] <sicking> smaug: but ok, yeah, i think your patch is the simplest solution. We can change things later if we care to
2814. # [20:55] <Bas> waldo: I have to go, I'm doing a test build now, will be back later and probably upload the patch.
2815. # [20:55] <Bas> Thanks for your help.
2816. # [20:56] <Waldo> Bas: np
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2818. # [20:58] <NeilAway> jdm: needs comixed with spiderman: "Bitch Please" :-P
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2821. # [20:59] <@smaug> sicking: and about the takeRecords() patch, that is the name and behavior I agreed with anne and rafael and adam
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2829. # [21:02] <Waldo> bz: given that the only way a condition expression could be problematic inside an if() is if it had unbalance parentheses, possibly we could get away without the extra parens...maybe
2830. # [21:02] <Waldo> s/ance/anced/
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2840. # [21:08] <NeilAway> armenzg_brb: only way I know is via a 3rd party exe called callfunc
2841. # [21:08] <akeybl> roc: I don't see mats online - would you be able to land bug 724352 today?
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2844. # [21:08] <akeybl> Ms2ger: just approved bug 734019. Please land asap so that we can get it into beta 5
2845. # [21:09] <NeilAway> armenzg_brb: but you could probably achieve a similar result using python to p/invoke SetCursorPos
2846. # [21:10] <WeirdAl> damn, it's easy for a blog post to get buried on planet ;)
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2848. # [21:12] <Yoric|Poor> So, as above: what is the recommended manner of recompiling m-c when the only changes take place in a .jsm of content/ ?
2849. # [21:12] <Yoric|Poor> toolkit/content, that is
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2851. # [21:13] <armenzg_brb> NeilAway: thanks a lot
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2853. # [21:13] <Mossop> Yoric|Poor: In that case just making in toolkit/content, and also browser/app if you're on OSX should work
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2856. # [21:13] <Yoric|Poor> thanks
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2875. # [21:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/77f0e7d882dd - Olli Pettay - Bug 742636 - Keep observed node alive during microtask if there are transient observers, r=sicking
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2881. # [21:28] <philor> hub: busted on windows
2882. # [21:29] <philor> jgriffin: busted on b2g
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2887. # [21:29] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b687cabf75a1 - John Ford - bug 720027 - turn the speed of Mac builds up to 11 r=ted
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2889. # [21:30] <Mook_as> lies, it turned the speed of mac builds up to 12
2890. # [21:30] <jgriffin> philor: thanks
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2892. # [21:30] <Ms2ger> philor, how about I revert inbound to dbaron's push? :)
2893. # [21:31] <hub> philor: *sigh*
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2898. # [21:32] <Mossop> Who was helping me with my .mkdir.done errors the other day?
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2904. # [21:33] <Mook_as> Mossop: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/developers/20120405#l-2471 ?
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2909. # [21:36] <Mossop> Mook_as: Thanks!
2910. # [21:36] <Mossop> Darn, he isn't here
2911. # [21:36] * coop|mtg is now known as coop
2912. # [21:37] <Mook_as> you're welcome! (I cheated, I used the google search...)
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2915. # [21:38] <armenzg_brb> NeilAway: do you have more info wrt to callfunc? python is telling me this "pywintypes.error: (1459, 'SetCursorPos', 'This operation requires an interactive window station.')"
2916. # [21:38] * armenzg_brb is now known as armenzg
2917. # [21:38] <armenzg> if I don't run it through VNC-command prompt
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2921. # [21:39] <hub> philor: one of the tree patches break windows. damn. do you revert all or shall I revert the one that doesn't work
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2923. # [21:40] <philor> hub: just back out the bad one if you're absolutely certain which one it is
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2927. # [21:41] <Ms2ger> hub, all, please
2928. # [21:41] * mkaply 's head explodes as he tries to read the try server documentation
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2935. # [21:42] <Callek> armenzg: how *are* you running it when you get that error?
2936. # [21:43] <Callek> armenzg: RDP, ssh, from inside buildbot which is under VNC, etc?
2937. # [21:43] <Callek> s/VNC//
2938. # [21:43] <armenzg> Callek: ssh
2939. # [21:43] <mkaply> Is the default try command a good place to start - try: -b do -p all -u all -t none
2940. # [21:43] <armenzg> if I do it through VNC it works
2941. # [21:44] <Callek> armenzg: yea that is probably why, windows needs a display context for the mouse... our windows ssh *service* doesn't run with that iirc.
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2943. # [21:44] <Callek> armenzg: since it basically does some black-box-magic to even make some very basic ssh stuff work
2944. # [21:44] <Callek> armenzg: at least "aiui"
2945. # [21:44] <armenzg> Callek: what about a bat file?
2946. # [21:44] <armenzg> should that work?
2947. # [21:45] <armenzg> I run the step through buildbot but I see the cursor in the original position
2948. # [21:45] <Callek> armenzg: if the bat file is run at startup/from a real VNC/etc. rather than from inside the ssh session I think it would work
2949. # [21:45] <gaston> make[8]: *** No rule to make target `DOMSVGAnimatedLengthList.obj', needed by `gkcontentsvg_s.lib.desc'. Stop.
2950. # [21:45] <gaston> wtf.
2951. # [21:45] <Callek> inside buildbot I also *think* it should work, assuming you're using the buildbot startup mechanics we use now on windows
2952. # [21:45] <hub> Ms2ger: how to I do that?
2953. # [21:45] <armenzg> Callek: let put that python script to be called from startTalos.bat
2954. # [21:45] <gaston> oh, win64
2955. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> hub, http://ehsanakhgari.org/blog/2010-09-09/backing-out-multiple-consecutive-changesets-mercurial
2956. # [21:46] <Ms2ger> I hear there are smarter scripts, but I never got them to work
2957. # [21:46] <hub> ok
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2963. # [21:47] <gaston> anyone can make sense of https://tbpl.mozilla.org/php/getParsedLog.php?id=10780823&tree=Try, and whether the failure is related to my push in a totally different area ?
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2967. # [21:49] <Ms2ger> gaston, retriggered :)
2968. # [21:50] <gaston> oh, so win64 is that kind of "when in doubt, retrigger and itll work" ?
2969. # [21:50] <hub> Ms2ger, philor: reverted the whole bunch
2970. # [21:50] <Ms2ger> gaston, that's what I do :)
2971. # [21:51] <gaston> so much for predictability
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2975. # [21:56] <NeilAway> armenzg_brb: callfunc would also need an interactive window station, so it doesn't help
2976. # [21:56] <jlebar> jhford++
2977. # [21:56] <jlebar> jhford, Yay for fast mac builds!
2978. # [21:57] <jhford> :D
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2980. # [21:57] <armenzg> :'(
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2982. # [21:57] <glandium> "Tp4 Mobile decrease 90.5% on Android 2.2 Mozilla-Inbound" really?
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2984. # [21:58] <mfinkle> O_o
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2987. # [21:58] <jlebar> Did you forget -O?
2988. # [21:58] <jlebar> lol
2989. # [21:58] <mfinkle> indeed
2990. # [21:58] <NeilAway> armenzg: you *might* be able to use psexec -i to force something to run interactively
2991. # [21:58] <mfinkle> not in my inbox yet
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2995. # [22:00] <armenzg> Callek: NeilAway it seems that calling the python script with startTalos.bat (a startup bat script) allows it to change the mouse pointer
2996. # [22:00] * liuche is now known as liuche|afk
2997. # [22:00] <armenzg> it's unfortunate that it is through there but whatever
2998. # [22:00] * joduinn-brb is now known as joduinn
2999. # [22:01] <NeilAway> armenzg: out of interest, why do you need to move it?
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3001. # [22:01] <Callek> armenzg: yea it works in there because it needs the desktop/window/screen whatever -- where it doesn't have that in an ssh session
3002. # [22:01] <armenzg> NeilAway: it takes away focus on a reftest test
3003. # [22:02] <armenzg> I am using nircmd to set a specific screen resolution but that seems to put the mouse just about where a button will show up on a reftest
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3005. # [22:02] <mfinkle> glandium, something must be broken there
3006. # [22:02] <mfinkle> i see xul and native affected
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3008. # [22:03] <Callek> armenzg: I'd do it via buildbot/automation.py/whatever then instead if its "for reftest" rather than "startup of machine" ;-)
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3010. # [22:04] <armenzg> Callek: voila!
3011. # [22:04] <Callek> armenzg: I just suspected it would *work* on startup rather than ssh :-)
3012. # [22:05] <jprmc> ehsan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733607
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3025. # [22:10] <NeilAway> armenzg: oh, you're getting a hover on a reftest? oops ;-)
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3028. # [22:11] <IDEVFH> Need some help, I've got an initial firefox build using start-msvc10.bat
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3031. # [22:11] <NeilAway> anyone know what part of the browser-chrome test harness actually loads the test script?
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3046. # [22:20] <IDEVFH> execution for the make -f client.mk says it can't find the ( midl.exe ). I've got the path with the both ( midl.exe & midlc.exe ) found with both same versioning
3047. # [22:22] * jmaher is now known as jmaher|afk
3048. # [22:23] <Ms2ger> midl.exe?
3049. # [22:23] <Ms2ger> Are you building 1998's source?
3050. # [22:24] <jwir3> wow. I think I just built the greenest tree I've ever seen on try.
3051. # [22:24] <Mook_as> a11y?
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3059. # [22:26] <@bz> ehsan: ugh
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3062. # [22:26] <@ehsan> ?
3063. # [22:26] <@bz> ehsan: "followups to X please" :(
3064. # [22:26] <@bz> ehsan: totally missed that, of course. ;)
3065. # [22:27] <@ehsan> hehe, it's ok
3066. # [22:27] <@bz> ehsan: followup-to headers please? ;)
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3068. # [22:27] <@ehsan> bz: decent mail client, please? ;)
3069. # [22:27] <@bz> ehsan: decent in what sense?
3070. # [22:27] * @bz is using Thunderbird
3071. # [22:27] <Ms2ger> !zimbra
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3073. # [22:28] <@ehsan> bz: something which works and is not web based
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3075. # [22:28] <@ehsan> so that you can set mail headers etc
3076. # [22:28] <@bz> ehsan: oh, you were posting from the web?
3077. # [22:28] <@ehsan> thunderbird lacks the former property :(
3078. # [22:28] <@bz> ehsan: heh
3079. # [22:28] <@ehsan> yeah, gmail is my mail client :(
3080. # [22:28] <@bz> ehsan: sorry. :(
3081. # [22:28] <@bz> ehsan: Can you set reply-to?
3082. # [22:28] <@bz> ehsan: or no luck on that as well?
3083. # [22:29] <@ehsan> in gmail? no!
3084. # [22:29] <@ehsan> really all you can do is send mail
3085. # [22:29] <@ehsan> and read mail
3086. # [22:29] <@ehsan> and that's about it
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3088. # [22:29] <IDEVFH> Windows SDK C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0A\Bin
3089. # [22:29] <biesi> ehsan, yes you can set reply-to
3090. # [22:29] <biesi> somehow
3091. # [22:29] <philor> the whole discussion is moot, anyway
3092. # [22:30] <@ehsan> in gmail?!
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3094. # [22:30] <philor> the last time I carefully set every header and repeated it in the first line, I got six separate threads across three newsgroups anyway, with some over-cc overlap
3095. # [22:30] <biesi> ehsan, hmm maybe only in limited circumstances that don't apply here
3096. # [22:31] <jdm> man
3097. # [22:31] <@ehsan> maybe
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3099. # [22:31] <jdm> it feels like people are intentionally using weird combinations of meme text and images now
3100. # [22:31] <jdm> I don't even understand what is happening
3101. # [22:32] <@bz> philor: because some people responded in moronic clients?
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3103. # [22:32] * NeilAway thinks ehsan avoids a Mozilla mail client because it would require using an nsIEditor to compose messages :-P
3104. # [22:32] <@ehsan> NeilAway: no, I avoid it because it can't handle my email
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3107. # [22:33] <fabrice> !seen smaug
3108. # [22:33] <@ehsan> and I mean literally, it is not capable of not hogging all of my CPU and let me read my mail
3109. # [22:33] <firebot> smaug was last seen 1 hour, 33 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying 'sicking: and about the takeRecords() patch, that is the name and behavior I agreed with anne and rafael and adam ' in #developers.
3110. # [22:33] <Ms2ger> ehsan, that's the nsIEditor :)
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3115. # [22:36] <NeilAway> ehsan: just how much mail do you have? I admit that now I am up to 76000 bugmails that SeaMonkey 2.1 tends to leak memory and start swapping after a few weeks of use
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3117. # [22:36] <@ehsan> NeilAway: round 7.5 gigs according to the gmail web interface
3118. # [22:37] <@ehsan> I have filed bugs and talked to people about this
3119. # [22:37] <@ehsan> but apparently I fall in the range of users who get what they get
3120. # [22:37] <@ehsan> and nobody has resources to make thunderbird handle large volumes of email
3121. # [22:37] <NeilAway> ehsan: in # of message terms?
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3123. # [22:37] <@ehsan> NeilAway: I don't know, I'm pretty sure the number is in the million range
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3126. # [22:38] <NeilAway> ehsan: ah, now that is a lot
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3128. # [22:38] <@ehsan> not really ;)
3129. # [22:38] <@ehsan> any half decent on disk db system is capable of handling that
3130. # [22:38] <Ms2ger> All stuck in your inbox?
3131. # [22:38] <@ehsan> no
3132. # [22:39] <IDEVFH> Ms2ger: Are you building 1998's source? - The return from the start-msvc10.bat build the path for the midl.exe - This has nothing to do with respect of 1998 source
3133. # [22:39] <Fallen> who is the best initial contact for the websites team?
3134. # [22:39] <Ms2ger> github
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3140. # [22:42] <timeless> ehsan: i haven't met *any* mail client that can handle gmail load
3141. # [22:42] <timeless> i gave up in 2004 or 2005
3142. # [22:42] <timeless> and the load there was closer to 3gb iirc
3143. # [22:42] <NeilAway> ehsan: handling what? listing a million messages on the screen? I doubt it
3144. # [22:42] <timeless> NeilAway: metadata cost for the messages
3145. # [22:43] <timeless> before running out of memory or swapping to death
3146. # [22:43] <jdm> the telemetry dashboards are still private, aren't they?
3147. # [22:43] <jdm> that's disappointing
3148. # [22:43] <timeless> or if you're using a non gmail back end, having the back end give up :o
3149. # [22:43] * jhammel agrees
3150. # [22:43] <timeless> that was my favorite
3151. # [22:43] <jdm> Fallen: #webdev, maybe?
3152. # [22:43] <timeless> imap command: get index
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3154. # [22:43] <timeless> imap server: spits out index
3155. # [22:43] <lmandel> jdm: telemetry dashboards are publicly accessible.
3156. # [22:43] <timeless> imap command: are you ok?
3157. # [22:43] <jhammel> timeless: not mutt?
3158. # [22:43] <timeless> imap server: no, thanks for asking
3159. # [22:44] <jdm> lmandel: show me how? they seem to require a username/password from metrics.mozilla.org.
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3161. # [22:44] <Fallen> jdm: duh, thanks
3162. # [22:44] <timeless> jhammel: when your imap servers actually give up as part of the basic imap introduction protocol if you don't have a path to skip that protocol
3163. # [22:44] <@ehsan> NeilAway: you dont need to list all of the messages
3164. # [22:44] <timeless> you're pretty screwed
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3166. # [22:44] <lmandel> jdm: that's only to control load on the current hardware. Anyone who asks can have the account. telemetry/mozilla.
3167. # [22:44] <jhammel> timeless: well, i'm certainly not defending the protocol ;)
3168. # [22:44] <jdm> danke
3169. # [22:44] <@ehsan> people have solved this problem so many times that the solution now has a nice (infinite scrolling)!
3170. # [22:44] <@ehsan> ;)
3171. # [22:44] <timeless> in theory my imap servers could have survived a query based protocol
3172. # [22:45] <timeless> jhammel: there's nothing wrong w/ the protocol
3173. # [22:45] <timeless> there's everything wrong w/ every client assuming that INDEX as step one is a good idea
3174. # [22:45] <jdm> hmm, didn't seem to work
3175. # [22:45] <timeless> it does *NOT* scale
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3178. # [22:45] <timeless> the solution is a windowing protocol (and it exists in the form of search instead of get-index)
3179. # [22:45] <jdm> lmandel: metrics.mozilla.com isn't letting me log in with that combo
3180. # [22:45] <timeless> but i haven't met any imap clients that do it
3181. # [22:46] <jdm> oh wait
3182. # [22:46] <jdm> I lied
3183. # [22:46] <jdm> I just can't spell
3184. # [22:46] <timeless> heh
3185. # [22:46] <lmandel> jdm: what url are you using?
3186. # [22:46] <lmandel> ok
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3188. # [22:46] <Yoric|Poor> What could cause the following error? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1562833
3189. # [22:46] <Yoric|Poor> c:\mozilla-build\python\python2.7.exe: can't open file '_tests/testing/mochitest/runtests.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
3190. # [22:47] <Yoric|Poor> (I am attempting to run a mochitest-chrome that worked flawlessly until 5 minutes ago)
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3192. # [22:47] <timeless> c:\mozilla-build\python\python2.7.exe: can't open file '_tests/testing/mochitest/runtests.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
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3195. # [22:47] <Yoric|Poor> timeless: Yes, the file doesn't exist.
3196. # [22:47] <Yoric|Poor> I just have no clue why it existed and now doesn't exist.
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3198. # [22:48] <@khuey> rerun the build?
3199. # [22:48] <@khuey> sounds like you started a top-level build and then killed it
3200. # [22:48] <@khuey> because the first thing a top-level build does is blo away things like _tests
3201. # [22:48] <@khuey> *blow
3202. # [22:49] <IDEVFH> Yoric|Poor: Is this the correct IRC to question about C++ Builds for Firefox ?
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3204. # [22:49] <Yoric|Poor> khuey: Yeah, doing that.
3205. # [22:49] <Yoric|Poor> IDEVFH: If you have to ask that question, then you probably should start on #introduction :)
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3208. # [22:50] <Yoric|Poor> Don't worry, we'll send you back to this channel if necessary.
3209. # [22:50] <IDEVFH> <Yoric|Poor> Sure maybe your correct, sorry. I haven't used the IRC for help that often except with AMO
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3214. # [22:52] <@khuey> haven't done that in a while!
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3216. # [22:52] <jhammel> khuey: freelance writer?
3217. # [22:53] <@khuey> heh
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3227. # [23:01] <mfinkle> rhelmer, ping
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3230. # [23:01] <rhelmer> mfinkle: pong
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3232. # [23:01] <mfinkle> rhelmer, we added some new talos tests, based on robocop, and was wondering if those appear on graphs.m.o
3233. # [23:02] <rhelmer> mfinkle: if talos is pushing to graphserver, they should.. do you know when they were enabled?
3234. # [23:02] <mfinkle> a few weeks ago
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3236. # [23:03] <mfinkle> you can see them on tbpl as "T" on the "Android opt" line
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3238. # [23:03] <mfinkle> tcheckerboard and trobopan
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3240. # [23:04] <qheaden> Unfocused: ping
3241. # [23:04] <rhelmer> mfinkle: hrm yeah we really need to make all the names consistent across these tools.. tbpl graphs etc... ok let me track it down
3242. # [23:04] <Unfocused> qheaden: hey :)
3243. # [23:05] <qheaden> Unfocused: Hey there! It's been a while. :)
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3246. # [23:05] <jhammel> rhelmer: or at least not 'T' ;)
3247. # [23:05] <jhammel> since there are 3 of them now, iirc
3248. # [23:05] <qheaden> Unfocused: Sorry I've been slow on the search addon bug. I've been extremely busy lately, and have been writing proposals for Summer of Code. :P
3249. # [23:06] <rhelmer> jhammel: :(
3250. # [23:06] <philor> mfinkle: http://graphs.mozilla.org/graph.html#tests=[[175,63,20]]&sel=none&displayrange=7&datatype=running and look at that, some non-1 numbers :)
3251. # [23:06] <sheppy> qheaden: slacker ;)
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3253. # [23:06] <Unfocused> qheaden: it's ok :) i've been swamped lately too, so i can relate
3254. # [23:06] <rhelmer> philor: ah thanks, i wonder why these aren't showing in the menu? the insert statements look a little odd, let me look up the table definition
3255. # [23:06] <qheaden> :P
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3257. # [23:07] <Unfocused> i figured you might be busy with school or something like that
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3259. # [23:07] <qheaden> sheppy: Slackers at least give you extra work to complete for them. :P
3260. # [23:07] <philor> I never try to use the menu, it confuses me far too much, I always go from an running instance on tbpl
3261. # [23:07] * sheppy cries.
3262. # [23:07] <qheaden> Unfocused: Yeah.
3263. # [23:08] * philor is now known as philor|away
3264. # [23:08] <qheaden> Unfocused: I'm not sure if I am going to be accepted to Summer of Code, but if I am, I might have to give the bug up to someone else during the summer period.
3265. # [23:08] <qheaden> So I'm going to start back working on it, and at least try to get it complete so I, or someone else can start writing tests.
3266. # [23:08] <rhelmer> philor: yeah that's just exposing the graphserver DB where things are inserted under various names for some reason.. the new design from jeads should help that a lot, and hopefully we'll get name consistency at the same time
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3268. # [23:09] <mfinkle> rhelmer, so we just need the names added to the DB for the UI ?
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3276. # [23:10] <rhelmer> mfinkle: it's supposed to be automatic, but we've been seeing cases where it isn't.. i am looking into it right now
3277. # [23:10] <Unfocused> qheaden: ok, just get to it when you can then :) thanks for the heads up
3278. # [23:10] <mfinkle> rhelmer, thanks
3279. # [23:10] <rhelmer> mfinkle: the menu is built by trolling test results and putting together valid combinations
3280. # [23:10] <rhelmer> np
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3292. # [23:17] <philor> a lot of the problem is that we change the names (always for perfectly valid reasons) every few days, see also "T"
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3295. # [23:18] <philor> makes it easier to find what you want from a run of it than to look at every single line in the menu to be sure something that sounds like it might be it really is it and the current instance of it
3296. # [23:18] <lsblakk> bz: i don't suppose you could also do the backout in bug 734019? Ms2ger isn't around
3297. # [23:18] <lsblakk> bz: it's the last beta landing we're waiting on, and you're a superstar lander today :)
3298. # [23:18] <@bz> lsblakk: looking
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3300. # [23:19] <@bz> lsblakk: yeah, I can do it
3301. # [23:19] <lsblakk> bz: most excellent
3302. # [23:19] <@bz> lsblakk: landing is pretty low-overhead with hg. it's nice. ;)
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3304. # [23:19] * lsblakk looks forward to autolanding these things :)
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3312. # [23:22] <lsblakk> bholley: for bug 735073, because it can take 4 hours to get complete results of a push - can you please do the beta landing now so we're in a good place for EOD 'go-to build'?
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3314. # [23:22] <lsblakk> otherwise we're staying late to watch the tree before giving a go
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3317. # [23:22] <@bz> lsblakk: landed
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3319. # [23:22] <lsblakk> bz: ty
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3322. # [23:23] <bholley> lsblakk: sure
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3324. # [23:23] <lsblakk> bholley: thanks
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3328. # [23:24] <Bas> waldo: Any chance I could get a quick r+ on bug 719776, it would allow me to get a bunch of patches out of my queue :)
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3330. # [23:25] <Waldo> probably, sec
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3334. # [23:27] <bjacob> is there a way to make appshell::NotifyObservers synchronous? i need to immediately notify an observer on low memory to be able to react before OOM; currently firefox takes 1.6 second to deliver my event
3335. # [23:28] * philor|away is now known as philor
3336. # [23:28] <bjacob> is NS_ProcessPendingEvents what I want?
3337. # [23:29] <@bz> context?
3338. # [23:29] <@bz> are you doing this under a JS API call?
3339. # [23:29] <dholbert> bear|buildduty, ping?
3340. # [23:30] <bjacob> bz: no, i'm on android, trying to fix a OOM crash, so i'm trying to listen to "memory-pressure" events
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3342. # [23:30] <bjacob> bz: bug 736481
3343. # [23:30] <bear|buildduty> dholbert - pong?
3344. # [23:30] <dholbert> bear|buildduty, looks like some builders might be missing ccache (and failing to build as a result) -- I just filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744179
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3347. # [23:30] <bear|buildduty> dholbert - thanks
3348. # [23:30] <Waldo> Bas: hmm, I thought we'd decided to have MOZ_ASSERT() as a macro, and MOZ_CRASH() as a different macro; what happened to that?
3349. # [23:30] <bjacob> bz: the events come from android JNI, not from content or js or anything
3350. # [23:30] <@khuey> bjacob: not really, since they're on different threads ...
3351. # [23:30] <@bz> ok
3352. # [23:31] <bjacob> khuey: can't i block that thread on the event delivery?
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3354. # [23:31] <Bas> Waldo: I threw all that away when we decided too much stuff assumed MOZ_ASSERT expanded to an expression?
3355. # [23:31] <@bz> so you have the one thread the thing from JNI comes in on
3356. # [23:31] <@khuey> well, you can, but what purpose would that serve?
3357. # [23:31] <Bas> I can make MOZ_CRASH into a macro again!
3358. # [23:31] <@bz> and you want to send an event to the Gecko thread, right?
3359. # [23:31] <bjacob> bz: correct
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3361. # [23:31] <Bas> But it would still crash inside the inlines MOZ_Assert :(
3362. # [23:31] * tbsaunde|afk is now known as tbsaunde
3363. # [23:31] <@khuey> the other threads can sit around allocating to their heart's content while you're blocking, no?
3364. # [23:31] <Bas> *inlined
3365. # [23:32] <Waldo> Bas: :-( I guess we had a Failure To Communicate
3366. # [23:32] <@bz> so once Gecko gets back to the event loop...
3367. # [23:32] <@bz> it can notice your event
3368. # [23:32] <bjacob> khuey: the purpose is to avoid crashing by immediately releasing all webgl resources.
3369. # [23:32] <Bas> Waldo: No problem, I can change stuff again :)
3370. # [23:32] <Waldo> Bas: I don't think there are that many places that depend on the expression-ness, they should be fixable without too much trouble
3371. # [23:32] <@bz> but your problem is that it might allocate too much memory before that
3372. # [23:32] <bjacob> bz: yes
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3375. # [23:33] <@bz> will this only happen if a bunch of JS runs?
3376. # [23:33] <Waldo> gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet, and all that
3377. # [23:33] <@bz> or at least some time passes?
3378. # [23:33] <Bas> Waldo: Hrm, how do you suggest fixing the one in JS_FLOOR_<etc>
3379. # [23:33] <@bz> or can it happen very quickly?
3380. # [23:33] <@bz> I mean....
3381. # [23:33] <@bz> given that you can't get back to the event loop in a timely manner
3382. # [23:33] <Waldo> Bas: that's what I meant about having |static MOZ_ALWAYS_INLINE JS_FLOOR_LOG2W| or whatever
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3384. # [23:34] <@bz> it seems like the right way to handle this is for the thread that knows about the low-memory condition to set some flag
3385. # [23:34] <@bz> and then the main Gecko thread should check that flag in key places
3386. # [23:34] <@bz> and act on it
3387. # [23:34] <bjacob> bz: what i know is currently we're running for 1.6 second until the event is delivered, and a bunch of JS does run, allocating a bunch more webgl resources. i would like to know if we can avoid crashing by reacting quicker. i dont know more
3388. # [23:34] <Bas> Waldo: Ooooh, Heh, alright, sorry about that!
3389. # [23:34] * bhearsum|bbiab is now known as bhearsum
3390. # [23:34] <@bz> ok
3391. # [23:34] <bjacob> bz: that makes sense
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3393. # [23:34] <bjacob> bz: i'll try that
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3395. # [23:34] <@bz> so the real question is where to check for this "low memory" flag
3396. # [23:34] <Bas> Waldo: I backed up my macro magic so I'll get back to you soon :)
3397. # [23:35] <@bz> you could do that in GL code
3398. # [23:35] <@bz> or in the operation callback on nsJSContext
3399. # [23:35] <@bz> if we're running for 1.6 seconds, the latter should work fine
3400. # [23:35] <bjacob> bz: i'll file a bug to continue that discussion
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3402. # [23:36] <Waldo> cool, at least we won't have wasted too much time due to miscommunication
3403. # [23:36] <Waldo> frequently savepoint all your patches, ladies and gentlemen
3404. # [23:36] <@bz> bjacob: ok
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3409. # [23:37] <fantasai> ehsan: pong
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3411. # [23:38] <@ehsan> fantasai: pinged you about the review for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=724978
3412. # [23:38] <@ehsan> not sure if it's already too late or not :/
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3420. # [23:40] <luke> not it
3421. # [23:40] <philor> oh noes, mats stole too many assertions on aurora
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3424. # [23:41] <fantasai> ehsan: So... where in FinishReflowWithAbsoluteFrames do you actually pass aConstrainHeight to ReflowAbsoluteFrames?
3425. # [23:42] <@ehsan> - FinishAndStoreOverflow(&aDesiredSize);
3426. # [23:42] <@ehsan> + FinishReflowWithAbsoluteFrames(aPresContext, aDesiredSize, aReflowState, aStatus, false);
3427. # [23:42] <@ehsan> fantasai: ^
3428. # [23:42] * rail is now known as rail_away
3429. # [23:42] <@ehsan> note the last argument
3430. # [23:43] <fantasai> ehsan: yes, but where does FinishReflowWithAbsoluteFrames pass that false to ReflowAbsoluteFrames?
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3432. # [23:43] <@ehsan> right, yeah it doesn't do that :/
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3436. # [23:44] <fantasai> right, this is why you need me to review your patches :)
3437. # [23:44] * fantasai giggles
3438. # [23:44] <fantasai> nsPageContentFrame and nsInlineFrame should also be passing false, btw
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3440. # [23:44] <@ehsan> fantasai: I'd like to do that in a different bug
3441. # [23:44] <fantasai> that they don't is a regression from your refactoring patch
3442. # [23:45] <fantasai> k
3443. # [23:45] <@ehsan> yeah
3444. # [23:45] <@ehsan> but we don't know if it has affected web content and how
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3447. # [23:46] <@ehsan> fantasai: ok, submitted a new version of the patch
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3452. # [23:52] <dholbert> luke, ping
3453. # [23:52] <dholbert> luke, looks like your m-i push is burning "disable-methodjit" tests (hidden by default, visible at https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Mozilla-Inbound&noignore=1 )
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3457. # [23:52] <dholbert> luke, (prev. 2 pushes don't show any disable-methodjit runs right now, but the one before that has greens)
3458. # [23:54] <@bz> is armenzg on irc?
3459. # [23:54] <gavin> usually, yes
3460. # [23:54] <mjessome> bz: left a few minutes ago
3461. # [23:54] <@bz> with that nick?
3462. # [23:54] <gavin> though apparently not at the moment
3463. # [23:54] <gavin> armenzg, IIRC
3464. # [23:54] <@bz> ugh
3465. # [23:54] <@bz> ok
3466. # [23:54] <gavin> oh, that's what you typed
3467. # [23:55] <fantasai> ehsan: the crashtest is wrong
3468. # [23:56] <fantasai> ehsan: Set columns: 2 on .container and .ocontainer
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3471. # [23:56] <fantasai> ehsan: the point is to have abspos frames as the children of a colset frame that is paginated
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3473. # [23:56] <fantasai> ehsan: otherwise it's not testing your code
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3476. # [23:57] <Bas> waldo: Call me crazy, but I don't understand what JS_FLOOR_LOG2W is doing exactly, I've rubbed my eyes 5 times now .. :P
3477. # [23:57] <fantasai> ehsan: r+ on the patch assuming the crashtest doesn't crash, r- on the crashtest
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3479. # [23:58] <luke> dholbert: ah, thanks. i'll fix 'em, usually its just a missing #ifdef JS_METHODJIT
3480. # [23:58] <Bas> Oh no, I do, doh.
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3483. # [23:59] <dholbert> luke, np
3484. # [23:59] <luke> dholbert: ...and that is indeed the case
3485. # [23:59] <fantasai> ehsan: so you'll want to make the abspos containers in the original test to be columnsetframes by giving them columns: 2; and doubling the height of their non-abspos children
3486. # Session Close: Wed Apr 11 00:00:01 2012

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