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  1. # Session Start: Sun Feb 24 00:00:00 2013
  2. # Session Ident: #developers
  3. # [00:00] <JosiahOne> Standard8: Right, that is exactly what my description was. Vertical should be default, but with the email list altered more like Gmail and Mail. Instead of individual tableView lines.
  4. # [00:00] <@dolske> of course if you're planning on doing the work, then rock on.
  5. # [00:00] <Standard8> JosiahOne: a word of warning, people don't like you changing defaults
  6. # [00:00] <WeirdAl> well, people don't like _people_ changing defaults :)
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  8. # [00:01] <JosiahOne> dolske: I want to try, but my skill set here is limited.
  9. # [00:01] <Standard8> true ;-)
  10. # [00:01] <WeirdAl> JosiahOne: honestly, that's how every one of us started: as a novice
  11. # [00:01] <JosiahOne> Standard8: Yes, but it won't effect people who already have TB, just new users.
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  13. # [00:01] <Standard8> JosiahOne: well, bwinton is best to discuss that with
  14. # [00:01] <JosiahOne> WeirdAl: Yep, I'm hoping in a year or two to be more familiar with this stuff. I'm still a student as it is.
  15. # [00:02] <Standard8> late here, I'm off to sleep
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  18. # [00:04] <JosiahOne> dolske: Anyways, what mailing list?
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  23. # [00:10] <JosiahOne> Okay well, I guess either tomorrow or on Monday I'll talk to bwinton about it. Thanks for everyone's help!
  24. # [00:11] <@dolske> JosiahOne: either http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/#dev-apps-thunderbird or https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/tb-planning
  25. # [00:11] <@dolske> not sure which is best for feature proposals.
  26. # [00:11] <JosiahOne> tb-planning looks good. Thanks.
  27. # [00:11] <@dolske> bwinton would know.
  28. # [00:12] <JosiahOne> dolske: Okay, I'll ask bwinton next time I can catch him.
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  30. # [00:14] <JosiahOne> dolske: Again, thanks for your help.
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  42. # [00:25] <jesup> aw, no firebot
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  66. # [00:56] <reed> firebot, tell jesup about uuid
  67. # [00:56] <firebot> reed: told jesup
  68. # [00:57] <jesup> firebot was taking a nap when I asked. I asked again (in #media) when he awoke from his nap
  69. # [00:57] <firebot> jesup: Sorry, I've no idea what 'was taking a nap when I asked. I asked again (in #media) when he awoke from his nap' might be.
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  74. # [01:05] <firebot> Check-in:
  75. # [01:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/ef8bf2dfc825 - Daniel Holbert - Bug 842080: Remove an unnecessary nsReflowStatus initialization, and add comments to clarify assumptions about ReflowAbsoluteFrames' reflow status arg. r=mats
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  77. # [01:06] <evilpie> can somebody give me a hint how selector matching works in terms of code in gecko
  78. # [01:06] <evilpie> something like a updateattributes call?
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  112. # [02:01] <gps> could someone with security privileges please update bug 842561 to note the m-c push. https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/62f3d4a4421a
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  114. # [02:05] <gps> bz_sleep: ^ that was your commit in case nobody gets to it
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  118. # [02:11] <@khuey> gps: bz_sleep: done
  119. # [02:12] <gps> khuey: thank you!
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  125. # [02:22] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b868e528a5c8 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 843656 - Fixup callee in JM jitcode prologue for callsite clones r=dvander
  126. # [02:22] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a04dde344d24 - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 843656 - move clone-at-callsite to the script r=bhackett
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  130. # [02:32] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e56a4581f888 - Alexander Surkov - Bug 835752 - EventQueue shouldn't keep a strong reference to DocAccessible instance, r=tbsaunde
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  153. # [03:17] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b5eff60ee456 - Gregory Szorc - Bug 827308 - Remove tools/testy; r=ted
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  245. # [05:45] <Mook> jaws: re: theme rename/move: in the future, would it be possible to do the announcement _before_ the actual commit?
  246. # [05:45] <Mook> (for similar platform-impacting things in general)
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  260. # [05:54] <@dolske> Mook: how would it have helped you?
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  265. # [05:58] <Mook> dolske: it's a matter of being polite and giving people a heads up?
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  269. # [06:00] <@dolske> no, I meant that as an honest question. aiui it's a fairly trivial thing to update patches for, so I'm curious why you're asking.
  270. # [06:00] <@dolske> (though if your reply _is_ your answer... also fair. :)
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  273. # [06:02] <Mook> mostly, just makes me less angry about the world.
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  277. # [06:07] <@dolske> well, not sure how much I can help there. May I suggest a good Eliza AI? ;)
  278. # [06:09] <Mook> I think getting some food in me might help. I don't think I have any bacon near me, though...
  279. # [06:09] <@dolske> wat
  280. # [06:09] <@dolske> how is that _possible_?!
  281. # [06:10] <@dolske> I have like 7 packages on standby.
  282. # [06:11] <@dolske> hmm 8 if you count the can at work. :D
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  285. # [06:18] <rohandalvi> I am looking to solve this http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?string=serverType+%28%21%7C%3D%29%5C%3D&regexp=on&find=%2Fmailnews%2Fbase%2F.*%5C.js%24 , can anyone tell me where the folder mailnews is located under mozilla-central, I can't find the directory, Thanks!
  286. # [06:20] <reuben> rohandalvi, https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/file/tip/mailnews
  287. # [06:20] <reuben> rohandalvi, it's under comm-central
  288. # [06:20] <BenWa> gps: ping
  289. # [06:21] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/b0eaff8b5bab - Jim Blandy - Bug 822923: make JS shell's 'evaluate' handle compilation errors without leaking source-map URL names. r=jorendorff
  290. # [06:22] <rohandalvi> reuben, how can i get that directory? I mean it's not under mozilla-central, I did the simple firefox build
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  296. # [06:25] <jcranmer|away> Firefox is not thunderbird
  297. # [06:25] <jcranmer|away> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Thunderbird_build
  298. # [06:26] <jcranmer|away> ^^ those are correct instructions
  299. # [06:26] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e0818ca155b1 - Patrick Wang - Bug 833270 - Part 1 - Adding RUIM support. r=allstars.chh
  300. # [06:26] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/d97f27bc517b - Patrick Wang - Bug 833270 - Part 2 - Test case. r=allstars.chh
  301. # [06:26] <rohandalvi> Thanks
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  422. # [09:36] <nik_john> hi i would like to take part in gsoc, i have just started contributing to mozilla and would like to do more. how should i proceed/prepare?
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  426. # [09:43] <gaston> so how do we mark a bug that only has some patches landed ? [leave open] in whiteboard is enough ?
  427. # [09:44] <KWierso|Home> I think so
  428. # [09:44] <Unfocused> yes, though i usually say the same in the comment that has the changeset url
  429. # [09:45] <Mic> nik_john: I'm not a Mozilla guy (not even contributor at the moment) but maybe it helps anyways: have you checked the FAQ (Apply as student), looked of the list of project suggestions, decided which ones could be interesting for you, ..already?
  430. # [09:45] <Mic> *at the list
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  432. # [09:47] <Unfocused> nik_john: i think gerv does all the gsoc stuff each year, might be worth talking to him. afaik there's documentation somewhere on the mozilla wiki
  433. # [09:47] <KWierso|Home> nik_john, Unfocused: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Google_Summer_of_Code
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  435. # [09:48] <reuben> also https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode13
  436. # [09:48] <Unfocused> well i never would have guessed that url ;)
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  441. # [09:52] <@dolske> I was guessing ..../SummerOfCode12. CRAP.
  442. # [09:52] <@dolske> ;)
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  449. # [09:59] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/3bb5fb2ab811 - Jan Beich - Bug 807492 - Define os_bsd early so it can be used later in the file. r=jesup
  450. # [09:59] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/e7ae0dbd36a7 - Jan Beich - Bug 807492 - Disable SSE4.1 code in libyuv if binutils is too old. r=jesup,ted
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  452. # [10:00] <nik_john> thanks, i have checked the links provided. the list in the ideas link seems empty, should i wait while it get updated.
  453. # [10:03] <smontagu> http://blog.gerv.net/2013/02/summer-of-code-2013/
  454. # [10:03] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0ebe5600711d - O S K Chaitanya - Bug 844511 - Only luminance masks need unpremultiplying and conversion to linear RGB. r=longsonr
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  459. # [10:04] <gaston> abort: empty revision set
  460. # [10:04] <gaston> warning: post-push hook exited with status 255
  461. # [10:05] <gaston> this warning is really scary for nothing
  462. # [10:05] <KWierso|Home> wasn't me I swear
  463. # [10:05] <gaston> is there a bug to avoid it ?
  464. # [10:05] <gaston> the push completes fine, but still there's that confusing message
  465. # [10:06] <KWierso|Home> gaston: I'm getting deja vu: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/developers/20120604#l-1209 :P
  466. # [10:06] <gaston> yeah, yeah :)
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  469. # [10:07] <gaston> but still, i find nothing in bugzilla referencing that ..
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  550. # [12:24] <smontagu> is anyone on the red in inbound?
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  555. # [12:28] <smontagu> gaston ^^^, your push, I think
  556. # [12:29] * Ms2ger looks
  557. # [12:29] <Ms2ger> Yeah
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  560. # [12:34] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8500e710ece7 - Ms2ger - Back out bug 807492 for build bustage.
  561. # [12:34] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/79abee23a552 - Ms2ger - Merge backout.
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  571. # [12:40] <RattyAway> http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showlog.cgi?log=SeaMonkey/1361705418.1361705511.24870.gz#err0
  572. # [12:40] <RattyAway> In file included from /builds/slave/c-cen-t-lnx64/build/mozilla/memory/mozalloc/mozalloc.cpp:29:0:
  573. # [12:40] <RattyAway> NEXT ERROR ../../dist/include/mozilla/mozalloc.h:20:26: fatal error: xpcom-config.h: No such file or directory
  574. # [12:40] <RattyAway> compilation terminated.
  575. # [12:40] <RattyAway> anyone know wherexpcom-config.h went to?
  576. # [12:40] <gaston> smontagu: meh
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  578. # [12:42] <Ms2ger> Oh dear
  579. # [12:44] <gaston> should have pushed it to try.. oh well
  580. # [12:45] <gaston> damn opening tbpl on nightly/powerpc wasnt maybe the wisest idea
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  587. # [12:58] <gaston> ah i landed the damn thing with a typo
  588. # [12:58] <gaston> what's the policy for fixing then ? push to try then reland ? reland ? reask r?
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  590. # [12:59] <ewong> shouldn't this be changed (s/winstripe/windows/) http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/195e706140d1/toolkit/toolkit-makefiles.sh#l1350
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  598. # [13:08] <RattyAway> ewong yeah
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  600. # [13:09] <ewong> any toolkit peers on right now?
  601. # [13:10] <RattyAway> jaws^^
  602. # [13:11] <RattyAway> Bug 842913 has his fingerprints on it (jaws)
  603. # [13:11] <RattyAway> ewong: probably not on a Sunday though
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  605. # [13:13] <RattyAway> ewong: I've left a note in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842913#c31
  606. # [13:15] <ewong> RattyAway: thanks!
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  623. # [13:30] <ewong> ah.. Unfocused..
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  625. # [13:31] <Unfocused> ?
  626. # [13:31] <ewong> Unfocused: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842913#c31
  627. # [13:32] <Unfocused> patches accepted ;)
  628. # [13:32] <ewong> Unfocused: good.. will do a patch now
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  630. # [13:33] <MrDHat> Is there a way i can check the "no of touches" supported simultaneously on a device?
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  633. # [13:36] <ewong> Unfocused patch attached to bug 842913
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  635. # [13:37] <Unfocused> ewong: r+
  636. # [13:38] <ewong> Unfocused: Thanks!
  637. # [13:39] <Unfocused> :)
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  642. # [13:43] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/0d0071a94fe9 - Edmund Wong - Bug 842913 - s/winstripe/windows in toolkit-makefiles.sh. r=Unfocused
  643. # [13:43] <ewong> I've pushed the patch to m-c.. Callek has volunteered to watch the tree for me
  644. # [13:44] <Callek> indeed
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  648. # [13:49] <jesup> Given an nsPIDOMWindow, what's the easiest way to determine if it's a child of another particular nsPIDOMWindow? (Presumably that one would be a tab's window) Is there an easy function or two, or do I need to manually walk?
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  659. # [13:57] <jesup> As in, given https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Inner_and_outer_windows#Nested_windows I want the Window at the top, not the outer window of an iframe
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  671. # [14:08] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/2236b1094379 - Peter Van der Beken - Fix for bug 844136 (Really convert HTMLLegendElement to WebIDL). r=bz.
  672. # [14:09] <jesup> peterv: ping
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  686. # [14:30] <peterv> jesup: pong
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  702. # [14:48] <jesup> peterv: In chrome JS, I think it would be let browserWindow = contentWindow.QueryInterface(Ci.nsIInterfaceRequestor).getInterface(Ci.nsIWebNavigation).QueryInterface(Ci.nsIDocShell).chromeEventHandler.ownerDocument.defaultView; (Stolen from webrtcUI.jsm)
  703. # [14:51] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/81eb649fee65 - Brian R. Bondy - Bug 844550 - Secondary tile text is almost invisible on Windows 8. r=jimm
  704. # [14:52] <jesup> my questions would be: a) what's the C++ equiv (I probably can figure it out, an example I can clone would be better), b) given this is to expose if any inner window in the tab has video or audio active, is that reasonable to expose (security-wise)? Alternatively, if I'm passed in an outer window (normally from chrome, but maybe not), what's the easiest way to find out if a given inner...
  705. # [14:52] <jesup> ...window is contained in that outer window? (Which goes back to my question ~ 1 hour ago)
  706. # [14:52] <peterv> jesup: I don't know
  707. # [14:52] <jesup> perhaps just an answer to that last part would solve my problem
  708. # [14:53] <jesup> Given an nsPIDOMWindow, what's the easiest way to determine if it's a child of another particular nsPIDOMWindow?
  709. # [14:53] <jesup> (repeat of earlier question)
  710. # [14:53] <peterv> I'm not sure what you mean by child
  711. # [14:53] <jesup> as in the heirarchy in https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Inner_and_outer_windows#Nested_windows
  712. # [14:53] <jesup> an outer window can be an iframe
  713. # [14:54] <@smaug> I'd iterate docshell tree
  714. # [14:54] <@smaug> can't recall any helper methods
  715. # [14:55] <@smaug> or, ContentIsCrossDocDescendantOf
  716. # [14:55] <jesup> any instances of iterating the docshell tree I can use as a guide?
  717. # [14:55] * jesup looks for that one
  718. # [14:55] <@smaug> jesup: is you use nsPIDOMWindow::GetExtantDoc
  719. # [14:55] <@smaug> s/is/if/
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  721. # [14:55] <@smaug> then you can use nsContentUtils::ContentIsCrossDocDescendantOf
  722. # [14:56] <jesup> so GetExtantDoc on the containing (maybe) windoe, then ContentIsCrossDocDescendantOf() to see if a particular window is
  723. # [14:56] <peterv> jesup: sorry, your mixing of outer/inner and child is a bit confusing
  724. # [14:57] <peterv> jesup: outer and inner usually represent the same "window"
  725. # [14:57] <jesup> sorry about that; I don't play much in the doc/window space
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  728. # [14:58] <jesup> Doing a back-end function to return to dao if a window has active video or audio streams, and have to worry about iframes, etc
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  730. # [15:00] <jesup> Or I need to provide a simple function that operates on inner windows (and I can already give him a list of those), and let him iterate the list and do the check (in JS) for each one to see if it's for his browser tab
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  732. # [15:00] <@smaug> jesup: hmm, couldn't you just expose something in docshell
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  734. # [15:01] <@smaug> then one can iterate docshell tree and check the state of each docshell
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  736. # [15:01] <jesup> Which side does the iteration is really more of a design question.
  737. # [15:02] <@smaug> jesup: what should the method do?
  738. # [15:02] <jesup> smaug: I guess that's an option; I'd need to update it on every stream change to match my internal list
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  740. # [15:03] <jesup> Dao needs to know for a given tab if video is currently active, and if audio is currently active.
  741. # [15:03] <jesup> He gets notifications when there are changes to active streams with the windowid to know if he needs to update
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  743. # [15:03] <@smaug> ok, so something like: bool hasActiveMedia(in nsIDOMWindow top)
  744. # [15:04] <jesup> I have a hash of inner windowid's that are active, and each is a list of the streams, and I can query those.
  745. # [15:04] <jesup> smaug: yes, though I need to differentiate video and audio
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  747. # [15:05] <@smaug> I'd iterate through all the descendand windows of top (using docshell iteration) and check whether the window is active
  748. # [15:05] <darkowlzz> how does |MOZ_ASSERT(NS_IsMainThread(), <message>); behave| ? Is it like, if it's not in MainThread, the message will be returned?
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  750. # [15:06] <@smaug> darkowlzz: on debug build message is printed to terminal and the process aborts
  751. # [15:06] <@smaug> on opt build it is no-op
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  753. # [15:07] <@smaug> darkowlzz: I mean, if not mainthread, print to terminal and abort
  754. # [15:07] <jesup> smaug: ok, instead of iterating upwards from each inner window in the hash? So iterate the docshell and query the hash for each windowid?
  755. # [15:07] <@smaug> yes
  756. # [15:07] <darkowlzz> ah! that's what I need. Thanks smaug :)
  757. # [15:07] <@smaug> since getting from hash should be fast
  758. # [15:07] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/62e44ae462ac - Mats Palmgren - Bug 843543 - Add a null-check after ShowPrintDialog to avoid crashing. r=smaug
  759. # [15:08] <jesup> I'm sure I can find some, but do you have an example of iterating the docshell to point me at? Sounds like a plan
  760. # [15:09] <@smaug> jesup: nsContentUtils::FlushLayoutForTree
  761. # [15:09] <jesup> smaug: thanks! Sounds like this will work
  762. # [15:10] <@smaug> that takes a window and traverses all the descendant windows
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  764. # [15:13] <ewong> is it just me. or has there been an increase of bug 710942?
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  775. # [15:22] <evilpie> hg and wiki down?
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  778. # [15:25] <Callek> evilpie: WFM
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  783. # [15:33] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/818d4459953d - Landry Breuil - Bug 807492 - reland after fixing a typo r=try-green
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  786. # [15:39] <Callek> gaston: ummm, green on try is *not* cause of review+
  787. # [15:39] <Callek> gaston: especially when the patch has r- from ted at a glance
  788. # [15:39] <gaston> nah
  789. # [15:39] <gaston> i relanded the two patches that were r+'ed
  790. # [15:39] <gaston> see the checkin+ flags
  791. # [15:40] <gaston> that morning i landed them with a typo...
  792. # [15:40] <gaston> the r-'ed patch is still pending among others, hence the [leave open] :)
  793. # [15:40] <Callek> gaston: I recommend making it obvious what patch you're landing when there are multiple in a bug. as well as do the r=jesup or whatever, r=try-green is almost always wrong
  794. # [15:40] <Callek> gaston: r=jesup (verified with try) or some such is fine on a relanding if it was due to a typo
  795. # [15:41] <jesup> agreed
  796. # [15:41] <gaston> hm, wasnt sure of the policy
  797. # [15:41] <gaston> i've seen r=i'm dumb patches landing so .. :)
  798. # [15:41] <Callek> gaston: yea, just because its done sometimes doesn't mean its right, you tend to want r=<actual reviewer> in all cases
  799. # [15:42] <Callek> if you feel more expose is necessary go ahead, but keep r= sane for future
  800. # [15:42] <gaston> but yeah, i'll be more careful next time - or do you want me to rebackount and properly reland in separate patches ?
  801. # [15:42] <Callek> I'm ok with how it is, but if jesup disagree's (since he's here) I'll let him override me
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  804. # [15:43] <jesup> I'm ok. This was the spurious '+' right?
  805. # [15:43] <gaston> yes
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  808. # [15:44] <gaston> i failed at applying a .rej manually when unbitrotting the patch..
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  810. # [15:44] <Callek> gaston: yea, we're all human, but the goal is to make things like "who reviewed this" "what went on here" as obvious as possible. Especially if someone needs to look at the source's blame 5 years from now
  811. # [15:45] <Callek> such that making it obvious what patch(es) a checkin refers to, who reviewed it, etc. is very very very helpful
  812. # [15:45] <gaston> indeed
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  820. # [15:52] <jesup> I'm ok with leaving it alone. We could backout and reland, but it seems unworthy of that to me. The bug number lets you figure it out if you need to. But I bow to sheriffs
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  825. # [15:53] <wg9s> gaston: but since what you are relanding is actually what was reviewed becuase the patch as r+d did not contain the typo. you dont really need to qualify the r+
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  829. # [15:58] <gaston> jesup: speaking of which, did you look at 844430 ? just to see if i'm in the right direction or not at all..
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  831. # [15:59] <evilpie> Callek: i can access hg.mozilla.org via proxy
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  834. # [16:00] <jesup> gaston: probably. You really should ping tuexen on it (he's in bugzilla)
  835. # [16:01] <gaston> jesup: ah he's the upstream dev ?
  836. # [16:01] <wg9s> or report the issue to your ISP. could be an inter ISP routing issue on the internet.
  837. # [16:01] <wg9s> are there other us based things you can;t reach, or it it just Mozilla?
  838. # [16:02] <wg9s> Also, is this a connectivity issue or a dns issue. Does the hostname resolve to an IP address?
  839. # [16:02] <wg9s> fi it is the latter you could try using the google public dns servers.
  840. # [16:03] <jesup> gaston: author of the FreeBSD impl and the usrsctp impl (and on the spec)
  841. # [16:03] <gaston> oookay, good to know
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  843. # [16:04] <wg9s> I mention the latter case becuase I have had this issue with ISPs whose DNS servers do not work correctly if the authoritiave zone is DNSSEC signed becuase they do not properly failover to using TCP if the response is too long for UDP.
  844. # [16:04] <merike> is bugzilla having problems?
  845. # [16:04] <wg9s> I had to re-confgure my router at home to return the google public dns servers to dhcp clients to "fix" this issue.
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  847. # [16:05] <jesup> smaug: ping
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  849. # [16:05] <@smaug> jesup: pong
  850. # [16:06] <jesup> smaug: ok, that all made sense. But it doesn't seem to be working for me.
  851. # [16:07] <@smaug> hmm
  852. # [16:07] <@smaug> what part is not working
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  855. # [16:08] <@smaug> jesup: note, you probably have inner windows in your hash, but nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMWindow> win = do_GetInterface(item); gives you outerwindow
  856. # [16:08] <jesup> If I pass an inner window to the function, it gets teh docshell, and it has 0 children. If I pass a browser window (tab), it has children, but they don't include the inner window (Now this might just be my misunderstanding what browserWIndow means in JS chrome)
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  859. # [16:09] <jesup> I might need something contained in the browserWindow, but not the actual brwoserwindow
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  862. # [16:09] <@smaug> browser window?
  863. # [16:09] <jesup> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2172578
  864. # [16:09] <@smaug> I have no idea what browserwindow means :=
  865. # [16:09] <@smaug> s/:=/:)/
  866. # [16:09] <jesup> The changed to webrtcUI.jsm are just a hack to try to test this
  867. # [16:10] <@smaug> oh, that one
  868. # [16:10] <jesup> browserwindow is a var in the fucntion
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  871. # [16:10] <@smaug> jesup: so int64_t windowID = win->WindowID(); gives you outerwindow id
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  873. # [16:11] <MrDHat> How do i test multi touch events in my browser?
  874. # [16:11] <@smaug> you probably want win->GetCurrentInnerWindow()->WindowID()
  875. # [16:11] <@smaug> (Get* methods need to be null checked)
  876. # [16:11] <jesup> ah
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  879. # [16:12] <jesup> spinning the build
  880. # [16:13] <jesup> makes sense
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  882. # [16:13] <gaston> merike: it seems to timeout a lot on me yeag
  883. # [16:14] <jesup> smaug: works! thanks
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  886. # [16:15] <@smaug> + nsCOMPtr<nsIDOMDocument> domDoc;
  887. # [16:15] <@smaug> + aWindow->GetDocument(getter_AddRefs(domDoc));
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  890. # [16:15] <@smaug> jesup: you probably don't need that
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  893. # [16:15] <@smaug> jesup: and null check aWindow
  894. # [16:16] <@smaug> eh, you do
  895. # [16:16] <jesup> smaug: yup, hadn't minimized yet on the domdoc. I'll null-check the window, thanks
  896. # [16:16] <@smaug> jesup: you do null check piWin
  897. # [16:16] <@smaug> that is enough
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  901. # [16:16] <@smaug> jesup: you could stop iteration when both booleans are true, right?
  902. # [16:17] <jesup> yes
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  909. # [16:20] <@smaug> jesup: and you need to recursively call the method, right?
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  911. # [16:22] <jesup> This should be called when the UI is told there's a change in the recording state for a tab (via Notify), which means one of the streams in the tab changed
  912. # [16:23] <jesup> so it can display correctly if it's sharing video, audio or both (right now it's broken and only displays the state of the last stream to be added to that tab)
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  914. # [16:23] <@smaug> jesup: I mean, the method itself should call recursive using child window as params
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  917. # [16:24] <@smaug> jesup: in fact, windowid check should happen before the loop
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  919. # [16:24] <@smaug> and loop would just recursively call the method again
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  921. # [16:26] <jesup> smaug: so the docshell will only iterate the direct children. Ah. Fun. Makes me think going the other direction would have been lower overhead. But this will certainly work, and it only happens for tabs we know have streams and something changed.
  922. # [16:27] <@smaug> this has pretty low overhead
  923. # [16:27] <@smaug> iterating through the docshell tree should be reasonable fast
  924. # [16:27] <@smaug> since the tree is usually quite small
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  927. # [16:30] <jesup> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2172601 seem reasonable?
  928. # [16:31] <@smaug> I wouldn't use goto, but break
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  930. # [16:31] <@smaug> and don't know what uint64_t windowID = win->GetCurrentInnerWindow()->WindowID(); is about
  931. # [16:31] <@smaug> left over from previous patch I guess
  932. # [16:31] <jesup> smaug: ah, yes, only one level of for() is there
  933. # [16:32] <jesup> yeah, the first and last were already there
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  935. # [16:32] <@smaug> jesup: actually, do you need GetCurrentInnerWindow there
  936. # [16:32] <@smaug> I mean when passing param to the method
  937. # [16:32] <@smaug> you need inner window only when checking the id
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  941. # [16:34] <jesup> http://www.pastebin.mozilla.org/2172603
  942. # [16:36] <@smaug> s/i_end/count/
  943. # [16:36] <@smaug> jesup: and move the stuff uint64_t windowID = win->GetCurrentInnerWindow()->WindowID(); ... before the loop
  944. # [16:36] <@smaug> you want to check the id of the param aWindow
  945. # [16:36] <@smaug> and then let recursive call take care of children
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  948. # [16:39] <jesup> thanks
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  950. # [16:40] <jesup> smaug: that helped a lot, thanks! r? to you (bug 843971)
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  955. # [16:44] <jesup> smaug: I appreciate it; this is being tracked for 20/Beta
  956. # [16:46] * jesup has to go take kids out, will check in in a bit in case of questions and then be afk for a while
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  966. # [16:54] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/eea13ee399c5 - Geoff Brown - Bug 844516 - Improve Preferences:Get usage in robocop; r=jmaher
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  977. # [17:05] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/83a44f08ea6a - Ehsan Akhgari - Merge mozilla-central into mozilla-inbound
  978. # [17:05] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/0d0071a94fe9 - Edmund Wong - Bug 842913 - s/winstripe/windows in toolkit-makefiles.sh. r=Unfocused
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  981. # [17:10] <MrDHat> Is there a way to emulate touch events in the browser?
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  983. # [17:10] <MrDHat> without a multitouch touchpad
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  986. # [17:14] <gaston> jesup: am i right that in webrtc audio on 'linux' pulse can only be enabled if alsa is enable ? looking at how the condition blocks are interleaved in webrtc/modules/audio_device/audio_device.gypi that's what i'd think..
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  998. # [17:19] <wg9s> gaston: yes you need to have alsa installed for the arch you are using in the browser, so if this is a 64-bit system and you have 32-bit browser you need alsa-lib-devel and alsa-lib-plugins-pulseaudio 32-bit installed
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  1000. # [17:19] <wg9s> and same for 64-bit if you want it to work on 64-bit browser as well.
  1001. # [17:20] <gaston> wg9s: no alsa on bsd
  1002. # [17:20] <wg9s> hmm well then i am not sure how to get audio to work.
  1003. # [17:21] <gaston> i was hoping pulse could be a 'replacement' for alsa in webrtc
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  1005. # [17:21] <wg9s> thsi si just an issue i have run into tin the past trying to get audio to work esp on 32-bit browsers under Linux.
  1006. # [17:21] <gaston> ie webrtc talking only to pulse, not 'alsa (and pulse if avail)' like on linux
  1007. # [17:22] <wg9s> you seem to need pulse anyway becuase if just alsa then youj cannot play audio with a non-alsa satndard stream rate.
  1008. # [17:23] <wg9s> without the pulseaudio plugin then also can only play audio that your sound card natively supports.
  1009. # [17:23] <wg9s> s/also/alsa/
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  1011. # [17:24] <gaston> so where should i start hacking ? make pulse independant of alsa, or start from dummy implem ?
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  1013. # [17:24] <wg9s> Not sure.
  1014. # [17:25] <wg9s> I guess a pulse independent of alsa sounds good because that should work in either the alsa or no-alsa case, no?
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  1017. # [17:26] <wg9s> since alsa without pulse does not work even under Linux.
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  1019. # [17:27] <gaston> yes - and for me it's the simplest path to get webrtc building atm, until i write an sndio/openbsd native backend
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  1022. # [17:31] <wg9s> gaston: I would ask rjesup@mozilla.com
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  1024. # [17:32] <gaston> wg9s: i asked him 15mn ago on this very irc channel :)
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  1027. # [17:33] <wg9s> OIC
  1028. # [17:34] <wg9s> So I answered, but his answer is more in a the direction you are going in is approved, rhater than my I think what you are asking to do amkes sense.
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  1042. # [17:52] <jesup> gaston: I'd try to develop a patch that applies to the trunk code, and then morph it to fit webrtc.org's layout and create an upstream issue there with a patch. (We can take the patch locally, of course, in the meantime)
  1043. # [17:52] <jesup> Check first that they haven't modified this much since the 3.20 branch we're using right now
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  1046. # [17:54] <gaston> jesup: but which direction ? make pulse available outside of alsa case, or go the dummy road from scratch ?
  1047. # [17:54] <evilpie> https://air.mozilla.org/mwc-press-conf/ starts in a view minutes
  1048. # [17:56] <jesup> gaston: defeine "start from dummy impl"
  1049. # [17:56] <jesup> define
  1050. # [17:56] <gaston> on openbsd, the native way to access audio system is through sndio, our own api
  1051. # [17:57] <gaston> start from dummy impl -> write an sndio backend starting from dummy/ api
  1052. # [17:57] <gaston> this is the hard route of course :)
  1053. # [17:57] <gaston> if it's simpler to disentangle pulse from alsa so that pulse can be enabled without alsa available, i'd rather go that route for now
  1054. # [17:58] <@smaug> is there some env variable for make's -j
  1055. # [17:59] <@smaug> so that I could have -j 8 by default
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  1060. # [18:00] <mkohler> smaug: mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j8"
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  1064. # [18:03] <@smaug> mkohler: I mean some env variabl
  1065. # [18:03] <@smaug> mkohler: or does export MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j8" work?
  1066. # [18:04] <mkohler> smaug: mh, don't know, I just have that in my mozconfig.. try it? ;)
  1067. # [18:05] <@smaug> I have it in .mozconfig
  1068. # [18:05] <@smaug> I'd just like to have something global
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  1070. # [18:06] <jesup> gaston: it sounds like untangling makes sense
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  1072. # [18:07] <jesup> you may want to opne an issue now on webrtc.org and outline your plan
  1073. # [18:07] <jesup> smaug: thanks, patch updated
  1074. # [18:08] <gaston> jesup: okay, thanks for the direction - the long-term goal would be to write a native sndio backend and ditch PA on openbsd, but that'd be for another life
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  1076. # [18:10] <gaston> hmm tracemonkey is dead right ?
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  1078. # [18:10] <evilpie> gaston: yes
  1079. # [18:11] <gaston> i have a commit that was made in tracemonkey hg tree, but apparently did migrate to m-c or spidermonkey or whatever tree where js development happen..
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  1081. # [18:11] <gaston> err did NOT
  1082. # [18:11] <evilpie> gaston: when was that that?
  1083. # [18:11] <gaston> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618485
  1084. # [18:11] <gaston> 2 years ago now, and it was for sparc64... which is now broken beyond repair
  1085. # [18:12] <gaston> where has jsval.h moved now..
  1086. # [18:12] <evilpie> not surprising for something we don't build and test
  1087. # [18:12] <evilpie> js/public/Value.h
  1088. # [18:12] <tbsaunde> smaug: I think setting MAKE_FLAGS in your enviroment will do what you want
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  1092. # [18:14] <gaston> evilpie: ok so the jsuword uword is still not there for 64 bits/big endian
  1093. # [18:15] <gaston> but i'm looking at code that comes from ese17 where it's still in jsval.h...
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  1099. # [18:22] <@smaug> tbsaunde: ah, I'll try that
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  1102. # [18:28] <evilpie> gaston: just file a new bug
  1103. # [18:29] <gaston> evilpie: for the sake of correctness on an arch where firefox will probably never run anymore, sure :)
  1104. # [18:29] <evilpie> gaston: nobody stops you from maintaining it :)
  1105. # [18:30] <gaston> i think it could be fixed if jsval switched to 128 bits
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  1107. # [18:30] <gaston> but that means absolutely nothing to me :)
  1108. # [18:30] <evilpie> we don't plan on switching to 128bits for now
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  1140. # [18:59] <Ms2ger> We will block third-party cookies? That's going to go down well
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  1147. # [19:11] <evilpie> Ms2ger: only from sites you visited before
  1148. # [19:11] <gcp> link with more explanation?
  1149. # [19:13] <evilpie> http://webpolicy.org/2013/02/22/the-new-firefox-cookie-policy/
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  1196. # [20:10] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/8b45c1a642df - Nicholas D. Matsakis - Bug 843684 - Add ParallelDo() r=dvander
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  1232. # [21:01] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/a71766c2c85d - Kyle Huey - Bug 784812: Implement real dependencies for WebIDL bindings. r=bz,ted
  1233. # [21:01] <Ms2ger> khuey, \o/
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  1236. # [21:02] <@khuey> hope it sticks
  1237. # [21:03] <Ms2ger> I'll hope that with you
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  1243. # [21:08] <Ms2ger> Eh, taxes
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  1247. # [21:11] <@khuey> I'm pretty sure the numbers on one of these forms I was given are just totally made up ;-)
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  1250. # [21:16] <philor> khuey: guess who's on fire?
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  1255. # [21:21] <capella> Billy Joel didn't start it
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  1261. # [21:24] <wg9s> Now that's funny!
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  1264. # [21:27] <@khuey> philor: :-D
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  1269. # [21:30] <@khuey> er, wtf
  1270. # [21:30] <@khuey> half the patch disappeared
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  1276. # [21:32] <@khuey> oh, I bet I know what happened
  1277. # [21:32] <@khuey> stupid editor
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  1280. # [21:35] <firebot> Check-in: http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/f63aacdb780a - Kyle Huey - Backed out changeset a71766c2c85d
  1281. # [21:35] <firebot> http://hg.mozilla.org/integration/mozilla-inbound/rev/cd8481cc4a32 - Kyle Huey - Bug 784812: Implement real dependencies for WebIDL bindings. r=bz,ted CLOSED TREE
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  1361. # [22:41] <philor> khuey: step in the right direction, now you build, you just fail check
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  1363. # [22:42] <Talidan> Hey guys, i just joined for some development advice
  1364. # [22:42] <Talidan> I didn't really know where to turn
  1365. # [22:42] <Talidan> So i'm implementing localization support for a piece of software
  1366. # [22:43] <Talidan> But i cant possibly predict what i'm up against. Right now i'm thinking about context
  1367. # [22:43] <Talidan> I'm wondering whether i force developers to contextualize every string (to a certain extent) because i can't possibly know if words can be used in the same context for different languages
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  1396. # [23:16] <@roc> this is a good way to uninstall all the crapware that ships on the Thinkpad: 1) remove laptop hard drive 2) throw it away
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  1402. # [23:19] <Matti> how can I find the history/hg log of a deleted source file ?
  1403. # [23:19] <@roc> hg log <name>
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  1405. # [23:21] <Matti> roc: http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/download ?
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  1413. # [23:36] <@dbaron> roc, reformat seems slightly less wasteful :-)
  1414. # [23:36] <Archaeopteryx> but likely doesn't give you a neat ssd
  1415. # [23:36] <@roc> takes longer :-)
  1416. # [23:37] <@roc> yeah in this case I'm replacing the drive with an SSD. Apparently Mozilla IT can't buy laptops without drives.
  1417. # [23:37] <@dbaron> roc, the CD-bay to hard-drive adapter is nice; then you can have both
  1418. # [23:38] <derf> Mostly none of the name-brands sell laptops without drives.
  1419. # [23:38] <derf> You just buy the cheapest drive option they offer and replace it.
  1420. # [23:38] <@roc> I could get one, and I probably will if I ever need the extra space, but I haven't exhausted my old 500GB drive yet
  1421. # [23:38] <derf> Since that will still be cheaper than buying a good drive at their prices.
  1422. # [23:39] <@roc> I assume they won't sell you a machine without a drive because they would lose money not shipping crapware
  1423. # [23:39] <@roc> so basically crapware companies pay Lenovo to ship me a drive I'm going to throw away
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  1425. # [23:39] <@dbaron> but Lenovo does sell laptops with SSDs
  1426. # [23:39] <derf> I find it hard to imagine crapware companies pay Lenovo enough to cover the cost of the drive.
  1427. # [23:40] <derf> I'm pretty sure you're footing the bill for the rest.
  1428. # [23:42] <@roc> dbaron: Mozilla doesn't buy them, it seems.
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  1430. # [23:42] <derf> Huh? I swear we bought jesup one.
  1431. # [23:43] <Archaeopteryx> looking at the ThinkPad prices, Lenovo likely makes a cut from the drive
  1432. # [23:43] <@roc> I ordered a new laptop with an SSD, and this is what I got.
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  1434. # [23:45] <@smaug> (being a contractor has some advantages. since you anyway need to buy your own laptop, you buy the one you really want ;) )
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  1438. # [23:48] <sancus> Lenovo sells the models of thinkpads we buy with SSDs, but not good ones, and at completely absurd prices. I'm guessing that's the reason why you don't get a default one.
  1439. # [23:49] <sancus> the highest capacity SSD they offer in the W530 is 180GB which is like ??? what
  1440. # [23:51] <sancus> roc: If you'd ordered an X1 carbon, it would have come with the built-in SSD :)
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  1442. # [23:51] <@roc> I'm completely happy with this setup, thanks
  1443. # [23:51] <@roc> I'm just amused by the market forces that lead me to throw away a perfectly good new hard drive
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  1445. # [23:53] <sancus> I guess that SSD options in the business machine world are still premium enough that they can get away with essentially using them as a way to rip their customers off and that's it
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  1447. # [23:53] <Matti> roc: I did the same (replacing a new 1TB HDD with a 256GB SSD)
  1448. # [23:54] <sancus> +$380 for a 180GB SSD option is worse than Apple, and at least Apple uses the best SSD controllers.
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  1451. # [23:57] <@smaug> no we not get stack traces when there is a crash on b2g?
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  1453. # [23:58] <@smaug> I mean on tbpl
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