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  111. # [20:30] <zcorpan> aaronlev: ping
  112. # [20:30] <aaronlev> hi zcorpan
  113. # [20:31] <zcorpan> aaronlev: the aria spec now says to not make aria attributes superglobal
  114. # [20:31] <zcorpan> aaronlev: is that a problem?
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  116. # [20:33] <aaronlev> what does that mean, superglobal?
  117. # [20:33] <zcorpan> apply to any element in any namespace
  118. # [20:35] <aaronlev> zcorpan: so just applies to html, xthml, mathml, svg, xul?
  119. # [20:35] <zcorpan> aaronlev: yeah
  120. # [20:36] <aaronlev> zcorpan: ok, but at the moment firefox doesn't bother checking
  121. # [20:36] <zcorpan> i know
  122. # [20:36] <aaronlev> i'm not sure what it would help
  123. # [20:36] <aaronlev> but i guess we should be correct
  124. # [20:38] <zcorpan> i think mainly because we don't want to hijack other language's attributes that we don't know about
  125. # [20:38] <zcorpan> also that we don't want to encourage authors to use their home-grown vocabulary + aria on the web
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  141. # [22:14] <zcorpan> "I don't think any spec requires the DOM tree to remain conformant wit the DTD/schema" -- http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/xhtml/20080130#l-163
  142. # [22:15] <Hixie> even html4 does
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  144. # [22:16] <zcorpan> where does html4 require it?
  145. # [22:17] <Hixie> hold on, this'll take me a while to find
  146. # [22:30] <gsnedders> so what does that mean? that the document becomes non-conforming when the DOM is modified in such a way?
  147. # [22:31] <zcorpan> gsnedders: i think it means that conformance can only be determinated by checking the markup against a schema
  148. # [22:33] <zcorpan> but it's not exactly clear to me what he means, or why it would be useful to exclude dom changes from conformance
  149. # [22:34] <Hixie> woah, html4 says "However, scripts should refer to an element according to its assigned name. Scripting engines should observe the following precedence rules when identifying an element: a name attribute takes precedence over an id if both are set. Otherwise, one or the other may be used."
  150. # [22:34] <Hixie> aha! found it
  151. # [22:34] <Hixie> HTML4 section 18.2.4 paragraph 3 (first paragraph after the list): "HTML documents are constrained to conform to the HTML DTD both before and after processing any SCRIPT elements.
  152. # [22:34] <Hixie> "
  153. # [22:34] <zcorpan> thanks Hixie
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