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  3. # [00:40] <Philip`> http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?%3C!DOCTYPE%20html%3E%0D%0A%3Cbody%20onload%3Dw(document.getElementById('i').width)%3E%0D%0A%3Cimg%20id%3Di%20src%3Dimage%20style%3Dmax-width%3A1em%20width%3D100%3E
  4. # [00:40] <Philip`> IE7 makes the DOM controlled by CSS
  5. # [00:41] <Philip`> (Opera and Firefox return different things from .width, too)
  6. # [00:47] * Philip` changes his code so it calculates image sizes on the server then outputs <img _width=...> so the client side can recover the real width, which seems totally horrible
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  47. # [12:38] <jgraham> hsivonen: I recall you had a new suggestion for a table headers algorithm. Did you put that in an email anywhere?
  48. # [12:42] <hsivonen> jgraham: I sent it to public-html.
  49. # [12:42] <jgraham> OK
  50. # [12:43] <jgraham> I'll find it then
  51. # [12:43] <hsivonen> jgraham: http://www.w3.org/mid/845ECFD6-91AB-43CB-BFB2-ED0939C25463@iki.fi
  52. # [12:45] <hsivonen> jgraham: see also http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20070911#l-108 onwards
  53. # [12:45] <jgraham> hsivonen: I guess that is supposed to work with the smart colspan algorithm?
  54. # [12:47] <hsivonen> let's see...
  55. # [12:48] <hsivonen> jgraham: yes, I think. If I understood the question right.
  56. # [12:49] <hsivonen> that is, adding my rule to smart colspan would make it work for my thesis
  57. # [12:50] <jgraham> OK, I;'ll look at implementing it later today (I've been roped into doing some gardening now ;) )
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  68. # [15:05] <hsivonen> hmm. is DOMContentLoaded Gecko-only
  69. # [15:05] <annevk> other browsers are implementing or have implemented it too now
  70. # [15:05] <hsivonen> my Planet Intertwingly experience on a Geckoless platform would be so much better if Opera supported that event
  71. # [15:06] <hsivonen> annevk: ok. I'm looking forward to a new version.
  72. # [15:06] <annevk> it's also part of HTML5, fwiw...
  73. # [15:07] <Dashiva> hsivonen: Opera supports it
  74. # [15:07] <hsivonen> in related news, the S60 Browser get the character encoding wrong on Planet Intertwingly. Probably due to the deliberate a/x+x breakage that zcorpan found
  75. # [15:07] <hsivonen> Dashiva: since which engine version?
  76. # [15:08] <hsivonen> Dashiva: doesn't work for me in the laters release version available for S60r3.1
  77. # [15:08] <Dashiva> S60 runs 8.6, doesn't it?
  78. # [15:08] <annevk> Safari has bugs with XHTML character encoding detection anyhow
  79. # [15:08] <hsivonen> Dashiva: 8.something, yet
  80. # [15:08] <hsivonen> yes even
  81. # [15:08] <Dashiva> Then it's not supported :)
  82. # [15:09] <Dashiva> Think it was in 9.0 it was added
  83. # [15:09] <hsivonen> the 9.5 engine is so much better than 8.6 that Mini is actually competive against for Mobile on devices that can run both
  84. # [15:09] <annevk> hsivonen, see also http://www.flickr.com/photos/hsivonen/204688573/
  85. # [15:09] <annevk> :)
  86. # [15:09] <hsivonen> annevk: good point ;-)
  87. # [15:10] <hsivonen> that's my third most viewed photo, btw
  88. # [15:10] <annevk> heh
  89. # [15:14] <hsivonen> sales-wise it isn't such a great idea to say that Opera 9 is coming soon without promising a free upgrade for those who buy an 8.6 license today...
  90. # [15:18] <hsivonen> Planet Intertwingly is one of my favorite mobile destinations, but none of MicroB, S60 Browser or Opera Mobile get it quite ok
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  94. # [16:46] <rhymes> Hi guys, I re-ran the test with the latest html5lib version: http://www.oluyede.org/blog/2007/09/22/html5lib-is-getting-faster/
  95. # [17:07] <Philip`> That looks like quite a nice improvement
  96. # [17:08] <Philip`> You could probably get a significant speed increase by running with Psyco, but I don't know if that counts as cheating :-)
  97. # [17:09] <Philip`> (Hmm, seems a less significant improvement than when I last used Psyco on html5lib)
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  110. # [18:51] <Philip`> krijnh: Maybe you could increase the size limit on logged refer(r)ers to something higher than 255 characters, so it doesn't cut off Google Image Search requests in the middle of the interesting bit?
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